A Freudian slip is when you say one thing & mean your mother

[spiderslegs]

Well it is, & now, as a mother of a daughter myself I don't want to be that joke.

How to avoid it??

Also remember you were not responsible for any of it, including your relationship now.

Yes Penguin, I did have friends who had fantastic mothers, who 'mothered' me.

I look to them & their relationships.

:) see that's something. Things are always bigger at 5am

You're right Parly, that's what I try to do.

My mother can't even spend an hour with my dcs.

I think she hates children.

She had a pretty shit time of it herself when young - but.....

I always find things better at 5am............ Peng

Are you happy remaining in contact with her? Because you don't have to (although it's easier said than done, took me years not to feel guilty about refusing contact with my father)

I have to go into the lab for a bit

bigger can be good or bad

's no-ones called me Peng before

Sorry - I really should have put this behind me at the age of 38, but.....I just can't forgive her for the girl I was.

She ruined my youth & adolescence.

Sorry penguin

See ? my problem is / was being the youngest of five and the only girl. I grew up with my brothers because Mum was out working fifty squillion jobs to keep us and whatnot, so their friends became mine and I never really learned how to do that whole closeness / emotional lark.

When I had my daughter, I did worry with how I?d manage the whole mother-daughter closeness and bonding thing because it didn?t come easily or feel at all natural. As it happens, we?re incredibly close and the best of friends.

I?m still not the best at the whole serious / sit down and scrike into a hanky sessions etc, and I?ve sometimes laughed at the funny noises she makes when she spews but she returns the compliment and giggles her arse off at me when I'm in a spot, so it's all good.

She ruined my youth & adolescence.

So don't let her ruin another moment for you. :)

But that's good Parly

That's a loving relationship.

I don't want a serious sit-down.

Ohh Penguin - what are you doing in the lab?