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Are you refusing to vote because you don't like your options?

49 replies

LoopyLoopsBettyBoops · 05/05/2011 15:05

Then vote YES to AV. It will make safe seats much less safe, you will have more of a say with your vote. It isn't a prefect system, but it will put an end to the astounding complacency that some politicians have.

Please think about it.

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grovel · 05/05/2011 15:07

I have voted. I voted no. I want conviction politicians, not people trying to be the least disliked.

exoticfruits · 05/05/2011 15:09

If you don't like the options why on earth would you vote yes?! It isn't a perfect system but it is an easier, fairer system as it is until they work something out that makes it fairer.
I have heard of some silly reasons but to not like the options and vote yes seems the silliest!

LoopyLoopsBettyBoops · 05/05/2011 15:09

That makes no sense at all. Confused

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exoticfruits · 05/05/2011 15:10

Exactly grovel! I voted NO for the same reason.

LoopyLoopsBettyBoops · 05/05/2011 15:10

Sorry, I mean to not like your options in terms of the two main candidates in your constituency.

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nickelbabe · 05/05/2011 15:13

jesus, you lot really don't have a clue, do you?

a vote for No means "oh, yes, we're perfectly happy with the knobends that run the country, and we love going from tory to labour every so often with no change from anyone.
In fact, a vote for No probably means you care so little that you don't normally bother voting anyway.

why bother voting if you're going to vote for the status quo/
why both voting at all if you're perfectly happy with the way things are and you wouldn't change a thing?

Voting YES means that we're on our way to proportional representation.
voting YES says "i don't like the way things are done and I want change"
voting YES says "i know it's not perfect this way either, but I'm not letting you lot tell me what I think "

grovel · 05/05/2011 15:15

nickelbabe

Nice rant. Nonsense but a good rant.

LoopyLoopsBettyBoops · 05/05/2011 15:16

So much better put than I could have done nickel. :) Exactly.

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LoopyLoopsBettyBoops · 05/05/2011 15:16

Can I safely presume that 'No' voters are almost exclusively also voting Tory? Is it simply that you like the unfair advantage it gives?

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LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 05/05/2011 15:17

I've already voted by post but if that car with the megaphone attached comes past just once more I'm going to sacrifice my tomatoes and chuck them at it... Hmm

The politicians have littered the country with their blasted pamphlets and our council won't recycle them... Angry

cantspel · 05/05/2011 15:19

I am sick and tired of people like nickelbabe ranting and implying anyone who doesn't agree with their way of thinking is thick and stupid.
If they are a sample of the yes voters then i am even more sure that my choice to vote NO was the right one.

nickelbabe · 05/05/2011 15:20

I owuld assume that loopy
the ones who say that they don't want labour to get back in again with their track record, but have conveniently forgotten the tories' previous track record.

as bad as each other, both main parties.

the reason some people vote for them is that they think there's noone else in the running.

naive.

JessicaDrew · 05/05/2011 15:20

no just can't find the voting card that came 4 weeks ago

DuplicitousBitch · 05/05/2011 15:21

you don't need the card. just go and vote

grovel · 05/05/2011 15:22

jessica, you don't need the card. Or perhaps you know that?Smile

bittersweetvictory · 05/05/2011 15:22

I voted no because its just another expense we can do without, and as for voting tory, im scottish so i would rather poke red hot needles into my eyes than vote conservative, SNP is the way to go.

nickelbabe · 05/05/2011 15:23

cantspel - don't think no voters are thick and stupid.

i think the majority of them don't understand, or don't care.
or as i said before, don't want change.

that's fine if you want to be told what you want by people who are very far moved from reality.

don't forget how hard it was for women to get the vote.
it was done in little steps, most of which were unsatisfactory, but it got us the vote in the end.

nickelbabe · 05/05/2011 15:45

Jessica - you don't need the voting card.
just goalong to your polling station and tell them who you are.

Liby · 05/05/2011 15:50

bittersweetvictory,

The expense is yet another strawman argument thrown up by the "non" camp. The figure of £250million is one I see often, and this is complete fabrication. £90 of that is on the referendum, which is going ahead whether or not AV gets brought in. £130mllion is supposedly on electral changes that are also going ahead anyway a well (on new counting machines, etc). Which means actually AV will cost about £40million of "new" money. Seems much more reasonable, doesn't it?

Oh, and another thing. Just as a comparison, it costs £210,000 to fly a single 6-hour mission to drop a single bomb over Libya. That missile costs at least £800,000. Makes you think, doesn't it?

gawdblimey · 05/05/2011 15:53

nah, i will be voting NO

all politicians will say what they think you want to hear (Nick Clegg) and most politicians are in it for what they can get for themselves, be it money, power, fame etc

fedupwithdeployment · 05/05/2011 15:54

I voted (yes) which cancels out DH's vote (No). I don't particularly like the options, but not voting wasn't one of them for me.

How DH voted No after seeing Margaret Beckett advocate No, I am not sure. I might forgive him one day...

exoticfruits · 05/05/2011 15:55

Your OP does at least make sense now you have amended it! I read it as don'tlike the options of Yes and No- so vote Yes!!!
Even now I have understood your OP I still stand by my NO vote.

sue52 · 05/05/2011 15:56

If we had had AV at the last general election Gordon Brown would be our PM now. Not sure if that is better or worse than what we have now but I thought it's worth mentioning.

bittersweetvictory · 05/05/2011 15:57

liby thats another thing that pisses me off, the money the tories are spending so Cameron can play soldiers, i know the figure of £250 million is exagerated but with the state of the country we can do without any extra expense,

nickelbabe · 05/05/2011 15:57

gawd - you're voting no because Nick Clegg wants Yes.
what about Gordon Brown and David Cameron, who want No?
how does that not sway you?
Confused

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