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Messages about families in US are pretty advanced for such a conservative country?

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Rohanda · 29/04/2011 23:20

i-carly - no present parents, with no mention of a mum at all, dad is in a submarine. Friend 1.Freddy has no dad. friend 2. has no dad and a dysfunctional mum.
House of Anubis - a private school with no parent figures
Just Add Water - Aussie, yes but on nickelodeon - none of the 3 girls has a nuclear family set up.
Drake and Josh - a step-family.
Wizards of Waverly Place - they are a mix of wizards and non-wizards.
Spongebob - well, what can I say!
Two of a Kind - twins with only a father with them.

What are we to make of this? The drive to establish the need for a 2 plus 2 family structure is being utterly undermined by the the biggest proponent of 'family values' that feeds the capitalist system, i.e. the US.

But is all of this consistent with family values in old European fairy tales, about children making their own way?

or,,,AIBU to suggest it's all preset for a very flexible attitude to family structures in the future.

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squeakytoy · 29/04/2011 23:23

eh?

AnnieOnAMapleLeaf · 29/04/2011 23:24

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Slightlyreluctantexpat · 29/04/2011 23:27

Nor me!

Rohanda · 29/04/2011 23:27

portrayal of family structures in a very conservative country?

are children being raised, via tv, of an acceptance of a rejection of the nuclear family? That it's ok to be raised in a 'different' family structure.

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squeakytoy · 29/04/2011 23:29

nope, ya still lost me... are you on the right board?

VajazzHands · 29/04/2011 23:30

Gabby you there??

BoysAreLikeDogs · 29/04/2011 23:31

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AnnieOnAMapleLeaf · 29/04/2011 23:32

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ddubsgirl · 29/04/2011 23:37

is it sad that i know all those shows!bloomin kids watching disney & nick tv

ddubsgirl · 29/04/2011 23:37

you forgot to add suite life on deck too!

Rohanda · 29/04/2011 23:40

Annie - I think I am saying the US is a very conservative country! I am pointing out that it is surprising that such a country is seemingly promoting 'alternative' family structures with so little output of comparable 2 plus 2 families in their stories. Not one family struture in the programmes have the attendant mom and dad. Perhaps with "Good Luck Charlie" being an exception.

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ddubsgirl · 29/04/2011 23:42

i dont think alot of the US is like that tho,its just an image,i bet single parent step etc outnumber and normal mum dad & dads

LoopyLoopsNincompoop · 29/04/2011 23:44

Could you start all over again, but include an explanation of what you're trying to say perhaps? Confused

AnnieOnAMapleLeaf · 29/04/2011 23:44

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squeakytoy · 29/04/2011 23:45

The US is not a very "conservative" country as a whole. Certain states are, but not every one of them.

worraliberty · 29/04/2011 23:47

How anyone can say America is an 'anything' type country is beyond me.

Their States are so vastly different from one another, you can't really put a general collective stamp on the country as a whole.

ddubsgirl · 29/04/2011 23:47

bible belt yes very conserative but other parts no

nijinsky · 29/04/2011 23:48

"What are we to make of this? The drive to establish the need for a 2 plus 2 family structure is being utterly undermined by the the biggest proponent of 'family values' that feeds the capitalist system, i.e. the US."

That would, I suppose, depend on whether you base your whole life around watching obscure tv programmes.

Might I suggest going outdoors and meeting real families to give an empirical slant to your work?

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2tired2bewitty · 29/04/2011 23:50

The thing is that these are dramas, and the presence of caring involved parents tends to limit the mischief kids can get up to, so for an entertaining tv show you have to find some way of absenting the authority figures

helibee · 29/04/2011 23:52

-Good luck Charlie is a traditional family

-Wizards of wavily place is a traditional family (wizard and non wizard mix is hardly the same as one parent or no parents)

-Hannah Montana, the mum died and the children are still being raised by the dad so not a 'non traditional' set up

Anyway these are Disney or nickelodeon, it's hardly programming sponsored by the US government. But as others have said I don't think of the US as being a very conservative country.

ddubsgirl · 29/04/2011 23:56

yep mostly utter crap!bring back grange hill lol

Rohanda · 29/04/2011 23:58

I am suggesting that the US is not a 'liberal' country at all. It has endemic conservative issues outside of inner-city areas. ( racism is but one of them - the desire for economic world domination another). But yet the iconic childrens prgrammes portrayal of family dynamics are almost wholey at odds with the stable, consumerist-basis that capitalism relies upon. It's a curiousity that isn't aparently shared!

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