I know abu , bralesss , how do I stop it bothering me (may be offensive)

[SueSylvesterforPM]

this may

I knows its ridiculous, not so much flatchested women but if someone on the saggy/larger breasted side is obviously not wearing a bra, I feel this wave of feeling sick and like a claustophobic feeling like I have to move, itsn ot just a dislike its physical disgust. And its getting ridiculous plus I'm sure the people notice which can't be too nice.

how do I go about stopping this?? and stop being a crazy lady??

Not something I've ever noticed.

Sue I also wear a bra in bed. It keeps them in place. I wouldn't though if I didn't have to. I would so love to be able not to wear one, but I can't bear them swinging around either.

You will not like this, its a braless teacher from Southpark

LOL ewwww

OP: I genuinley think you should look into counselling, because your reaction is extreme and sort of involuntary and it's causing you distress.
It's a phobia, basically, and you'#re not 'bad' for having a phobia, you can't help it.

I have medium tits and the only time I wear a bra is for Morris dancing, because otherwise they are uncomfortable. I think the 'comfy/uncomfy' bra argument depends a lot on how big your norks are and what you are doing at any given time.

If the sight of your own breasts is making you feel sick then I think perhaps you have a touch of body dysmorphia and getting some psychological help would be a good idea. I can't imagine that you see that many bra-less women for your feelings to significantly affect your life, but including your own in the mix must really up the impact.

I mean there not a nice sight im a G bf and my boobs have always been slightly downward even from early pubery so are slightly deformed I think the relative think may be a tigger too, never made the connection until now. but the feeling is the same.

t's a phobia, basically, and you'#re not 'bad' for having a phobia, you can't help it.

thankyou, some of the posts on here have been horrific and if id come on with a phobia of baked beans wouldnt have treat with the same vitrol.

Women is non-supportive or badly fitting bras give me the shudders.

Women in the above and at the gym just fill me with horror.

I know - I need to hitch up my well-fitting, supportive judgey knickers and mind my own business ......

I have the same ishoooos as the OP clearly.

Think you've just got to the root of your phobia. How powerless your relative's behaviour made you feel. So other women going braless are reminding you of it.

I think so too, I couldnt really bring it up without sounding loony and I do think its indecent in certain circumstances,

I saw a woman today with the most enormous boobs and no bra, they were just hanging. I didn't fell ill, I just thought how much better she would have looked if she were wearing a properly fitting bra and she would have had a mega cleavage.

She clearly didn't want to, or she would have done. Half the people on this thread would have the fashion police manhandle her into M&S's finest given half a chance.

I appreciate for the OP its a phobic thing, but plenty of other posters have been rather disgusting in their comments to women who simply don't conform to rigid notions of what women must look like.

But dittany why should the OP have had the power to make her relative wear a bra? Why should a bra be considered so compulsory it is thought indecent if you don't wear one? I could understand if the relative had insisted on being topless or something really quite out of the norm, but assuming that the person in question was wearing normal clothing whether or not she had a bra on too surely isn't something that most people would get quite so upset about. I would be very irritated if my children told me I had to wear a bra in my own home because they didn't like it, or they thought their friends couldn't cope.

OP have you ever talked to your GP about your breasts - would a reduction help? It used to be possible to have reductions on the NHS in exceptional circumstances (physical or psychological).

Sorry dittany, from one point of view I agree it makes sense, being forced into physical intimacy by anyone is obviously a bad thing, and if the OP's main memories are of the big unbound breasts then I can see how the association might start. But it sounds as if the OPs issues might have started before then if she already had such an issue with her relative not wearing a bra that she felt she couldn't have friends around.

I do understand that feeling of embarrassment in front of your friends, and how as a child/teen you can feel that somehow it reflects on you. dh didn't have friends around to his place because he was worried his mother might be very drunk and behave very badly. I guess I find it hard to see saggy breasts in quite the same light, but not being there of course I've no idea how the relative behaved. I just hate bras personally, so the idea of them being mandatory really doesn't appeal.

i like to wear strapless dresses, but trying to find a strapless bra at a reasonable price for a 36 f in almost imposible.

I do understand that feeling of embarrassment in front of your friends, and how as a child/teen you can feel that somehow it reflects on you. dh didn't have friends around to his place because he was worried his mother might be very drunk and behave very badly. I guess I find it hard to see saggy breasts in quite the same light, but not being there of course I've no idea how the relative behaved. I just hate bras personally, so the idea of them being mandatory really doesn't appeal.

This relative was crazy saggy and would have been glaringly obvious , it is embarassing especially in company I think you should make yourself decent in company just my view. and hugging like that isnt nice either, she didnt man handle me I couldnt exactly say I'll only hug you with a bra on lol. even im not that mean.

OP have you ever talked to your GP about your breasts - would a reduction help? It used to be possible to have reductions on the NHS in exceptional circumstances (physical or psychological).

nah I'd probably be laughed at im also really scared of someone saying actually you're really saggy. I'm on a weight loss program atm I remember it being less the smaller my boobs were so I'll see how it works.

Losing weight will help, although I found with my very small breasts that getting very fit resulted in more sag (sadly pertness went along with babies) because there wasn't enough fat left to fill them.

If you are very large breasted, and they are oddly shaped (I think you mentioned this before?) and they are giving you a lot of unhappiness then you really might be eligible for a reduction. I really don't think that you'd be laughed at, it's not that unusual a request. But better to lose weight first.

If you are very large breasted, and they are oddly shaped (I think you mentioned this before?) and they are giving you a lot of unhappiness then you really might be eligible for a reduction. I really don't think that you'd be laughed at, it's not that unusual a request. But better to lose weight first.

yeah I have a feeling thats what the doc would say to me anyway

Thing is I like having a big chest just want it to look good out of the bra lol IYSWIM

I feel that way about my small breasts to be honest - not that I put them in a bra, but that I wish they looked/felt better! I suspect this is a fairly common feeling.

had a moment yesterday Oh I was ready to jump out of the lift, I can't get the mental image out my head ick!

the bra is an awful invention, we dont need to wear them!

I dont wear a bra, i have 34/32 Dcups and they are not as pert as they have been!

just dont look, no woman should have to wear a bra at all if they dont like!

I often go braless when relaxing but always wear one for work. Have probably worn a bra more as the kids get older though. Have occasionally had 1 of the cheeky monkeys say "mum you need to put a bra on". I'm normal BMI and c cup.
I think my generation are more relaxed about going braless than my mother's. Don't think my mum ever went braless when clothed.

I remember being on holiday in Lome (Togo, W. Africa) and seeing a woman walking down the road bare breasted carrying a clay pot of water on her head.

She was absolutely gorgeous, I cannot begin to describe the elegance and poise she demonstrated. If boobs can ever be perfect; she had them.

But noone batted an eyelid, why would they in a culture where breasts are not seen as sexual.

I have a phobia I post on here to vent it
when I see some that are keeping ankles warm tbh I think a bra is needed