I always liked India Knight.....but.....

[reelingintheyears]

'I don't believe women who say they loathe the institution of marriage.
If you poke around a little it always turns out that they've never been asked'

What a fool.

I felt really insulted by her article in yesterdays Sunday Times.

I've been with DP for 25 years.

I hope she's a MNer and sees this.

Its perfectly alright to change your opinion on someone if they say or do something you fundamentally disagree with.

I hope you don't feel bad about it.

She is not super-human.

googoomama....

me too...

I never even thought about weddings when i was a child/young woman.

I was a bit of a tomboy but not a total one.

I HATE the shit that we all want to be Princesses.

I am so NOT a Princess.

me and emma kennedy had a falling out over fucktard, funnily enough. she was incredibly nobbish about it.

Please, what is fucktard?

Same as you ReelingInTheYears...I was a total tomboy and couldn't bear anything frilly! I never played one wedding game as a kid and neither did being a princess ever cross my tiny mind!

My Mother had a terrible marriage so from an early age I equated marriage with being trapped and suffering so I had a horror of it. I was well suprised when people I knew actually started getting married, totally shocked!

I did get asked once but I just let it fizzle out. He was an awful twat anyway.

India Knight was VERY supportive of MN during the whole Gina Ford debacle. She was a friend of this site when it really, really mattered.

Irritating and stupid comment but most of us have made plenty of them in our time.

I never thought about weddings as a child either. Had other stuff to do!

On the other hand, I did get married when asked, but found the whole process hideously stressful (I didn't care about cars/stationery even dress particularly as long as I didn't look revolting).

I find India hard to like. The occasions I find myself nodding to her column are far fewer than the times I throw the newspaper across the table.

OTOH I love Caitlin Moran. Her columns on why an entirely fictional (often not even human) character would be perfect boyfriend material crack me up.

I still don't know what a fucktard is.....

I was always a girl/boy.

I hated boys being able/allowed to do things i couldn't do.

Edam: "Irritating and stupid comment" - yes, that's what op is saying, isn't it? I don't see where she has said "but I, otoh, am perfect".

She is pulling India Knight up on her irritating and stupid comment. Its not against the law, however much Mumsnet might officially be a fan.

I wouldn't mind being a princess, if I were one in my own right.

All that twaddle about its being worth it to wait for someone is ridiculous, though. Fair enough if that's what you both want, but otherwise, I'm not really interested in bringing up my kids to waste time on people who can't make up their bloody minds be their prince or pauper. I'd prefer they have a little more self-respect for themselves and what they want and need.

I'd be happy to recommend this book. www.amazon.co.uk/Hes-Just-That-Into-Understanding/dp/0007198213/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1303771098&sr=1-1This one, or www.amazon.co.uk/You-Didnt-Hear-Bartenders-Impression/dp/0743293436/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1303771175&sr=1-2this.

Edam.....

I said that i felt insulted by by India Knights comments.

'I don't believe women who say they loathe the institution of marriage.
If you poke around a little it always turns out that they've never been asked'

How rude.....that those Women have never been asked to be married.

India must have turned down loads of proposals.

I don't know who India Knight or Caitlin Moran are, but I have been asked loooaaads
Not a princess. Am a queen thank you very much.

Interesting observation : Why are all my married friends 20 pounds heavier than me? Marriage can't be that great if they need to inhale jumbo bags of kettle chips every evening. And they never have sex.
I am not saying marriage makes you fat and frigid, just noting the facts...

the statement cited by the OP is bad enough but the full story really got my goat. She seemed to be mistaking a desire for romantic love with a wish for marriage, and the two need not go hand in hand. I certainly dreamed of romantic love, but never a prince or a wedding, and my views were formed more by E.M. Forster than some ridiculous children's fairy tale.

Dont like India Knight but LOVE Caitlin Moran.

I'd marry her if she asked me.

(sorry dh )

It's pretty offensive, apart from anything else, and very unsisterly, if I can use that terribly unfashionable word .

I too have been asked ? by DP ? and declined. We are still together, happily, I just don't want to be referred to as a spinster (as happened to my friend when they met the vicar of the church they married in), have assumptions made about my changing my name, be automatically referred to as 'Mrs' (IMO it sounds very ageing, plus I'm a Ms and always will be, god-dammit). I also have no desire to be a princess . A goddess, maybe.

Plus if I got married to DP we'd both have to invite our relatives .

Hugely off topic, but I've always been a bit dubious of her having read her truly awful book, think was called 'don't you want me' or some such, was free with a magazine I think, in which she refers to some modern art looking like 'morph's spastic brother'.

I'm aware that won't be her attitude now, but I don't like the fact that it ever was. Maybe being oversensitive, but thats just me.