..to think we women are our own worst enemies?

[MsToni]

There can be so much negativity and pettiness on here sometimes, its unreal.

I'm sure we are all going through so much stuff in our individual lives, work, etc and I'd expect people come on here for a bit of "leaving the baggage in our lives outside", "talking things through", downtime and advices.

It must suck to come on here for support and advice and have total strangers attack and vent their frustrations on "innocent" OPs.

Hiding behind the anonymity of our laptops and online persona makes it easy for some people to be vicious, insulting and mean. Its really upsetting.

As a rule, if I don't have anything nice or helpful to say, I generally do not respond to threads. I do the same in my daily life.

It may serve some people well.

Just a thought.

Gosh

Golly

Oh no

Well I have experienced both ends, I have posted on a website where people were unpleasant just because they could which was upsetting a lot of the time ( I stopped posting) but also have been a member of a website where it's a bit "too" fluffy and it is hard to give an honest view, even nicely.

I think Mumsnet is somewhere in the middle. Yes, occasionally I will read something and think 'harsh' but for the most part people give their views. If I need a bit of fluff which we all do sometimes I steer clear of AYBU x

toni,you're not arbitrar of mn posting.or moderator of what constitutes vicious,mean etc.and this high handed tone of well do as i say,live by my maxims is bit twee

and whilst you are undoubtedly entitled to your subjective opinion,doesn't mean it is shared

mn has range is verbose and can be acerbic,it can also be funny and supportive and nature of anonymity on line,is its liberation.as it is only words on a screen.you dont have to engage or take on-line what some anonymous rattle tattler says

I find fluffy irritating, as well as sycophancy, and I steer well clear.

Harsh advices can be constructive without insults, surely?

you are being very me-me.everyone do as toni says
bossy

I totally agree. I've seen people come on here and explain that they're suffering from PND so maybe that's why hey've reacted a certain way. and they still get attacked.

I think even if you don't agree with someone you can put your point across in a non aggressive way. I'll probably get attacked for saying what I've just said as it's a public forum for debate etc etc but it's my opinion so I'm prepared to be attacked for it...

Sincere apologies if you find my views bossy. It was just a thought.

I assume you don't care if the men are harsh?

No!dont apologise your views are valid,as is my contention.that's the point of internet riposte.please dont apologise,get stuck in instead.have a good ole banter

mn is discurivse forum,of course it gets heated
isnt online therapy or cosy commune.it is internet banter with strangers.and that is the pleasure and pain.the spontaneity and divergent pov.

YABU - women account for 51% of the entire world and probably about 96% of MN. No one would come here if we all sat down and held hands. There are some women on here I think rock, others I roll eyes at , some are plain bonkers IMO etc etc. We all have good days, bad days/hours/minutes.

You are sounding a bit like the "thread police" actually op - chill!

the myth of the sisterhood is pernicious one.same gender doesnt mean we all have to get each other,or agree.so no women arent each other own worst enemies,as there is no battle.and reducing it to women got to stick together sistas is simplistic and lacks intellectual rigour

So long as you want opinions from other people you will face some fluffy responses as well as some very harsh responses, its just natures way honestly. The great thing about MN is that you have nothing to fear about writing your honest opinion, and that can be really inspiring. For me, this is the best way to get advice because sometimes our real life friends lie to use, or dont tell us the truth about themselves. Here we can put our guards down and really share our experiences. If some people are ridiculously harsh then just ignore them xxx

I don't think theres anything wrong with having an opinion and getting it, but I worry about people who have no opinions or are afraid to express them.

Plus, I do think that having an opinion about someone or something, but withholding it, sometimes falls into the category of arselicking, which I dislike even more than being opinionated.

Shouldn't have said though, should I, because its not nice?

I do feel as though I can be totally honest on here. Sometimes in real life, you really want to say to people what you really think - not necessarily hurtful, just not very tactful. But here I think when people ask for opinions or advice then they do accept they will be getting honest answers. That's what MN is for, isn't it?

LOL!! Nice demonstration!!

On here you can think about what you are going to put down before sending your comment. In real life you just don't get that time. Share your opinion even if you think it sounds silly but thats how I behave anyway. I like going on mn because I can read other peoples opinions so that I can get more of an understanding about how to be a better person and mother. If a person wants to use mn they have to think about what it is they want out of it rather than just venting. Some people who come on here are in pain and sometimes there opinions will sound harsh but we are all here to learn, its better out than in because atleast then they can be challenged on why they think that way.