To wonder what 'class' actually is?

[JazzAnnNonMouse]

So in my perhaps ignorant head I've always thought that:

Working class = people on a low income, perhaps helped out by social housing/benefits etc maybe working in an unskilled job to pay for things. work to live type of thing. (liveable)

Middle class = graduates or proffessionals working to live but with money to spare for savings/setting up children's future etc (comfortable)

Upper class = The Queen... people who have no need to work as they have inherited lots of money and are jetsetting around the world visiting the 'poor' as ambasidors for charities etc (rich)

Now I'm not too sure, I used to think most people were middle class but I'm thinking most people are working class now?
If 'class' is purely a financial thing does that mean that trashy celebs like Katie Price are Upper class?! If it's not purely financial then what else is it?
Does 'class' really exist at all?

oh right stranded - ta haha

(I think the class system is bollox too - wondered what others think?)

Well I am in a class of my own

what defines your class mrspoc?

Jazz class is just a relic of our past, when there were landed gentry, professionals, and workers, clearly defined.

Class is most definately not purely a financial thing. There are plenty of upper class almost penniless families still out there, living in their old estates that they can barely afford to repair and keep heated, while there are plenty of millionaires who are, and always will be, working class.

It's just about your family and their history. That's all that defines your class.

so what would mine be?
Fathers family = comfortable holidays two or three times a year living in a very nice house, had nice (ish) jobs, have silver butter dish
Mothers family = mostly on benefits/ in social housing, rubbish jobs (if any if I'm honest!), couple of alcoholics/drug users

It is just some arbitrarily personal description people use to describe families and their aspirations ...

Not growing up in this country and being one of those awful foreigners who are milking the system it is just a coy way of being prejudiced without the stigma of colour, race or religion

ok so can someone class me up?
or am I half class?

I wanted to ask this of foreigners - are we 'classless' then?

Jazz you have to reveal more first, gong back generations. What were your fathers' family's origins? And your mother's? What did their great great grandfathers do?

I just feel that as a foreigner, I knew where I 'stood' in my home country wrt class - I can't relate or assimilate my position to my perceived ideas of UK class ...

I play the jolly foreigner 'I know nothing' card ...

ok so my parents great grandfathers?

Lawyer (big house in Kensington with maids), land owner (unsure of what this means) but they had a lovely house (shame its not still in the fam!)

bent policeman, farm labourer
that's all I know - on one side of my family they're well off, enjoyed hunting etc were often sons of majors (some medals somewhere) on the other side mainly crooks and poor... some in the workhouse :(

Still don't see what that makes me...
one half seems to be 'underclass' - working class
other half seems to be middle class - richish

class is getting out of the bath for a wee

Mike - I do that, I must be classy!

JazzAnnNonMouse
you are one classy MNer

I only get out for a poo

My 3 yr old son gets out for a wee, he as ideas above his station

haha I wee in the shower, maybe that makes me 'down to earth' but still classy?

you on the other hand...

so are there no other definitions of class?