To be pissed off with the football --hooligans-- supporters today and the police a bit too

[littleducks]

We live near a tube station on a direct line to wembley. So when there is an event we often get people parking on the street (there are restrictions but they are fairly relaxed) which can be mildly irritating at times but doesnt usually bother us, we have off road parking and are warned well in advance when events are.

For the past 30 mins there has been a stretch 4 by 4 parked outside, half on the pavement as all the parking bays have been full since about 10am and this thing was long. A second identical one just turned up, so they were obviously waiting.

There was lively banter flag waving anod chants etc. when the occupents met up, again mildy irritating but not unexpected on an event day. One bloke shouted "Oh I'm racist and I dont care" which made me a bit but hardly the end of the world.

Then one bloke walked off the pavement onto our communal front lawns and took a piss against the cherry blossom tree. Someone shouted 'put it away' from one of the houses and his mate came and joined him.

This is private land for the row of houses and flats here. The police on the road opposite didnt notice apparently but did warn the group to calm down as the had left our area and were going into tube station.

I am really pissed off, there are toilets in the tube station! I wasnt really impressed with my kids hearing their language and had shut windows but really am angry there are blokes pissing on the lawn the play on outside our front window.

I think the police should have moved them on when the first parked there. Its yellow lines, they were on the pavement and there is an 'event car park' just set up within a few hundred yards which has space for the large, chavvy cars....it would have cost them ten pounds to wait there but they wouldnt have disturbed us

YANBU but all the same, of you build your home next to the slaughterhouse, don't complain when the pigs squeal.

No, it's not acceptable but sadly it's inevitable that you will get unpleasant behaviour if you are situated as you are. It's part and parcel of living in London for a start and one of the reasons I moved out and into a village where nothing happens.

I dunno why a 4 X 4 is chavvy though. I must warn my very middle class, 50-something,Landrover driving Mr Wonderful of that! :o

A 4 by 4 stretch limo thingy and we are not even in Brent so not that close to wembley just on a direct line.

As Vallhala says, you must have known when you moved in that this sort of thing would happen.

Maybe I'm being over sensitive then. It just really wound me up, I didn't expectbehavour like that to be honest. It's a nice area.

My mil lives far closer to twickenham stadium fro example but apart from being able to hear Bon jovi play in concert and not parking on her road on event days you wouldn't really notice.

I think it may depend on the teams too, I have no idea who is playing though. Yesterday morning the atmosphere was scary as we drive into wembley until we got next to the stadium, like the people Who had tickets were in a fun mood but those travelling down (from up north somewhere) to be near by were trouble makers.

I think it does depend on the teams, tbh. I've twice lived near Premiership grounds (not direct route from trains/coach parks, but on routes the home fans would use). Club A was never any problem at all - plenty of banter so quite loud, but a family atmosphere as there were lots of fathers taking their lads along, and no nastiness; Club B was just foul and we learned not to go out at the times of their home games.

both teams yesterday were from the North, Manchester Utd, and Manchester City. Bitter rivals, so guaranteed to be a fair amount of trouble between fans. Today is Bolton Wanderers and Stoke, so again teams from the North, but not quite the same sort of fans that the yesterdays teams have.

At Twickeham, you have the rugby, which really does have much more civilised fans.