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Really, how did the human race reach this impasse

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spiderslegs · 13/04/2011 00:53

Where PFBs, children who are too weak to hear the 'horror' of the Easter story & parties where they only eat crisps & shit have survived.

Really, we're so tragically weak, we should have died out shortly after we developed lungs.....

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spiderslegs · 13/04/2011 02:15

thumb - exactly, our children, wlll be soft.

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Morloth · 13/04/2011 02:17

I love how in most alien films the aliens are the baddies.

Really, given how we treat each other what are the chances that we wouldn't be the evil ones?

Avatar was a bit crap, but far more likely than most of the others where 'We' are good and 'They' are bad.

madbunnieseggnest · 13/04/2011 02:21

morloth Grin The aliens are always bad ( except E.T.) has to be...humans are the best! Except we kill each other,have feuds and generally despise many of our fellows. Me..I'd love to be an alien..they stand an outside chance of not facing the shit life on earth is!

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spiderslegs · 13/04/2011 02:23

Avatar was a bit crap, take away the three-D & It was one of the worst films I'd been subjected to for years.......

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thumbwitch · 13/04/2011 02:23

mad - I have mostly agreed with you here but seriously, the 1950s is such recent past that it still counts as being "now" in terms of how we're evolving.

I was harking back to the survivalist roots of hundreds and then thousands of years ago, really.

I wonder exactly when we started thinking about alien species existing? 19th century? Before then?

Morloth - yes, good point! But we wouldn't be as scared of them if they were the good ones, would we - we'd just exterminate them, to avoid change, as Mad says.

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spiderslegs · 13/04/2011 02:24

Mad - I guess you never watched BSG then?

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madbunnieseggnest · 13/04/2011 02:25

Only mean't the film genre of the 50's..where the aliens where always invades!

TanteRose · 13/04/2011 02:25

the recent disaster in Japan actually proves you wrong! Now, this is a highly developed country, children attached to their electronic games, no food issues, Maccie D on every corner, not used to hard grind etc. etc. Kids here are soft compared to say, Haiti...

However, in the face of an unimaginable monster (tsunami), there are children who survive, who are cheerful, who don't complain when they have one bowl of rice for the whole day, who coped with sewerage filled toilets in the evacuation centres, who coped with sub-zero temperatures in tents out on the mountain side, whose whole families were killed....

in my view, the kids are alright!! Humans have an amazing survival instinct that kicks in, when needed.

Morloth · 13/04/2011 02:25

No argument there spiderslegs but it was at least a little more honest about human motivation than most films in the genre.

But then it kind of went along the whole 'Noble Savage' thing which is also a bit dumb.

Was pretty though, very very pretty.

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spiderslegs · 13/04/2011 02:27

Hmph - Thumb am a little pissed you never mentioned me....

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thumbwitch · 13/04/2011 02:29

Ah, very good point TanteRose. Although, and I'm not in any way taking away from their skills, everyone is having to deal with the same thing, adults, children and all. (Has anyone else come onto the thread I started to say they're ok? Hope they are...)

In a general state of play, not a disaster zone, children are still going to suffer if they don't have some kind of commonsense thing going on, no?

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spiderslegs · 13/04/2011 02:29

Mor yes, very pretty.

But trite, so trite it made me sick,

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thumbwitch · 13/04/2011 02:30

lol spiderslegs - I didn't need to, didn't disagree! :)
I haven't seen Avatar, well not all of it anyway.

Morloth · 13/04/2011 02:31

Since we are talking movies.

The Matrix made a good point about how humans couldn't handle utopia, we fought it off and just knew that it was wrong, that sounds about right IMO.

TanteRose IME Japan is/was nowhere near as insulated from the real world as the UK. The climate was different, they live on the edge of a tectonic plate, the land is nowhere near as gentle, the very word tsunami is Japanese.

I don't know. In a disaster I like to think I am one of the strong but I suspect I have been so insulated from reality for such a large part of my life that perhaps I don't have the mental strength to cope.

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spiderslegs · 13/04/2011 02:42

& let us never forget the Japanese survivors, children, if they survive, are generally cheerful.

Yep, the cheerful fuckers keep on keeping on.

Despite their dead parents, they keep that yellow eyed smile going......smiling when the teachers tell them their parents are dead, still smiling when their brothers are dead, still smiling when the CAMERAS ARE GONE, fuck, they're not, they're grieving, they're crying, because their parent's are dead & their brothers are dead, & their sisters are dead

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thumbwitch · 13/04/2011 02:56

spiders - just checking you know that TanteRose is in Japan, don't you? since I think that's who your rant is aimed at, not quite sure...

TanteRose · 13/04/2011 02:57

@spiderlegs, nice.....Hmm

Morloth · 13/04/2011 03:18

Seriously weird post spiderslegs.

laptopwieldingharpy · 13/04/2011 03:31

bring on the tiger mums then?

laptopwieldingharpy · 13/04/2011 03:34

????????
guess party's over?

CheerfulYank · 13/04/2011 03:37

Well.

My kid is tough.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 13/04/2011 10:26

I get it, spiderlegs... I've often wondered whether Britain would channel the 'spirit of the Blitz' and pull together if needed... and I think its population is far too apathetic and needy to manage. Let's hope we're not tested.

Ormirian · 13/04/2011 10:35

Well according to certain branches of quantum theory we are in an computer simulation of a universe anyway so blame the programmers.

dearyme · 13/04/2011 10:36

i so agree OP

you would think the mums of today are the first ones to ever have kids LOL

no wonder so many kids have issues :(

ginnybag · 13/04/2011 12:17

On the subject of Japan and it's survivors - we could learn a lot. Who in Britain would have thought to place the schools and hospitals on the high ground, just in case?

There's a reason, sadly, there are so many children that have lost their families, and it's because the adults, generationally, thought this could happen and planned for the survival of their children, in the worst case scenario.

Which leads right back to the start of the thread - they planned for survival, of their kids, of the species. We don't. It's not good. I agree that children are savages until we tame them into adulthood, and will survive what an adult will not. But they have to be given the chance to, first, and we may well not be doing that.

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