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to think that BMI calculations are crap in determining if you are over/underweight?

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GetOrfMoiLand · 12/04/2011 17:28

According to my BMI I am underweight. If you looked at me you wouldn't in a month of Sundays say I was underweight. I am fine boned that is all.

Just made me a bit annoyed because we did BMIs at the gym today (just out of boredom waiting for a class to start) after weighing ourselves - and the people I was with started saying 'ooh you're underweight' just because I number told them I was.

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Pixielovescake · 12/04/2011 18:35

One of my friends is in the army. His BMI says over weight. Not even a bit. He plays rugby a lot and has massive shoulders. But fat ? Not a scrap on him.

SillyHat · 12/04/2011 18:37

The whole BMI thing works out pretty well for me but it is definitely only a rough guide. Bodyfat percentage gives a more accurate picture for sure.

tyler80 - you have a fab figure! I agree that the BMI is completely out for you!

sincitylover · 12/04/2011 18:38

has anyone here actually weighed their boobs? And if so how did you do it (interested emoticon) Smile

tyler80 · 12/04/2011 18:39

Boob weighing requires some helping hands Wink

Cattleprod · 12/04/2011 18:40

My BMI is 17, so I should be a skeleton I guess. I'm just quite tall and quite slim.

mydaddrivesarustycar · 12/04/2011 18:41

I agree with libra in that it is representative for most people. A 'normal' BMI for me is within a range of two stone. I think two stone is a pretty broad range which probably accounts for the difference between a fine boned, small breasted woman of 5 foot 6 and a large boned, large breasted woman of 5 foot 6.

Lizcat · 12/04/2011 18:42

I work in a job that requires a lot of upper body strength, I just get into the very top end of normal BMI even though I wear size 12 clothes.

Maryz · 12/04/2011 18:46

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SlightlyB0nkers · 12/04/2011 18:56

It really is a crock. I keep tipping into overweight on the BMI and Theres no way I am.

And what is "small" anyway. Some people consider 5foot as small. I'm 5'6 and my 6" friend thinks I'm small.

My wrist bones are the same size as my DHs. I'd love to be dainty but that's not going to happen.

pinkstinks · 12/04/2011 19:01

Its really upsetting i am a 34 HH at the moment and despite losing weight, and losing none from the cuppage, my doctor still refuses to give me a breast reduction. I have small waist which just makes me look more ridiculous, and im having back pain plus decent bras are bloody expensive!

Crawling · 12/04/2011 19:06

Put boobs in a bowl of water filled to the top and measure the overflow. I have always been very muscular and had a BMI of 22. Yet I am very skinny.

mydaddrivesarustycar · 12/04/2011 19:09

That's interesting slightlybonkers.

I'm 5 foot 6 with large bones (wide shoulders, large frame, wrists etc - fingers don't meet around wrist) and if I weigh anything over 11 stone (top of my BMI) I do look and feel overweight.

Quattrocento · 12/04/2011 19:12

I've checked the BMI ranges for my height (5' 11") and it appears that normal ranges from 9 st 5 lbs to 12 st 11 lbs

That's a hugely wide range. Too wide to be meaningful. There's the body fat percentage, size of norks, size of bones, size of frame to be taken into account.

And yet people place quite a lot of store on it

chicletteeth · 12/04/2011 20:20

It's in the scientific literature if you want to take a look you could probably google it and you'd find decent references. I guess is what it is really saying is the healthy range is a little different to this 20-25 range we hear bandied about all the time.

We regularly take this measurement in clinic along with waist;hip ratio and some people have BMI's of 23 and you look and think - you're fat (using the actual definition of the word fat (tissue type) but you're not overweight! However, you could still stand to lose a little fat.

Others come in with a BMI of 27 and you at them and are pretty sure they're healthy and don't have any fat to lose - you couldn't pinch an inch anywhere so to speak.

My BMI is just under 25 right now, I'm tall and this is heaviest I've ever been and whilst I don't like busting out of size 12's, you wouldn't look at me and say fat! I would like to lose 2 stone to get back my lithe body shape (starting low carb diet tomorrow), look much better with a BMI of around 22.

My husband was on a study that was being run by my colleague and his BMI put him at almost obese, and yes he has a small middle-age spread type belly but there is no way he needed to lose 3 stone to get into normal range. He'd look terrible. He's healthy as a horse and his metabolic profile proves it.

So YANBU at all to dispute it for yourself and there will always be exceptions to every rule. But on an epidemiological level, BMI is a very useful indicator and as such, the 20-25 range stands as a reasonable one.

gapbear · 12/04/2011 20:22

One of the boaties at uni I knew was morbidly obese according to BMI. Not an ounce of fat on him, just 6 foot of pure muscle

chicletteeth · 12/04/2011 20:24

Pixielovescake, bone density doesn't differ that much between people.

There is very very little difference in ash (bone weight) between two completely different sized adults.

What type of tissue you carry, and where you carry it however, does differ.

Carol Leroux (works with Stephen Bloom at Imperial) did a study (just a case study mind, only an n=12) and showed that when people gained weight, they laid it down differently.

So for example there was a chinese lad who put on 5lbs only (despite drastically overeating) and it was mostly muscle he gained.

The caucasian boys put on a lot more weight and a greater percentage of it was fat than muscle!

Again, this is not properly statistically powered, but it gives some useful insight.

A decent medic shouldn't be swayed too much by set ranges, taking a medical history and just using their eyes - they should be able to work out if you're doing ok or not.

Pixielovescake · 12/04/2011 20:28

Ah i think i meant size ! As in skeletal size . Didnt explain that very well at all did i ? :)

chicletteeth · 12/04/2011 20:30

That makes more sense pixie! The longer and wider your bones are, the more covering you need!

Pixielovescake · 12/04/2011 20:46

Thats it ! Thats what i was attempting to say.

GetOrfMoiLand · 13/04/2011 10:37

Blimey Tyler, your figure is amazing. Wish I looked as good in a bikini

It is ridiculous that your are overweight according to BMI.

I tried to weigh my boobs once (me and some drunken girls). Didn't work. Not enough of 'em to sit on the scales.

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confuseddotcodotuk · 13/04/2011 10:46

BMI is shite for me too. When I was in my late teens I was 'underweight', Now, at 22, I am a healthy 10-12 waist and 8-10 top and not exactly muscley, but now I'm on the overweight side of the healthy range. Tis a load of bollock IMO. YANBU

confuseddotcodotuk · 13/04/2011 10:49

What annoys me more is that they use it on children. The 8yo I used to look after was devastated to discover she was verging on dangerously slim! Her mother is a slim woman who's over 6ft and she inherited the height Angry Kids take these things a lot more seriously but don't have the ability to analyse it properly.

BaronessBomburst · 13/04/2011 10:55

Just calculated mine on the NHS website. T'is indeed a load of shite. My BMI was 26.6, putting me at a risk of heart disease, cancer and high blood pressure. Better stop breast feeding then, as it's all nork! (Which incidentally I have weighed and they came in at just under 2 kilos each - I am a K-cup.)

My pre-baby weight still had me at the top end, and to land in the middle I'd have to drop to under 9 and a half stone. If I weighed that much I'd look terrible!

TrillianAstra · 13/04/2011 11:00

Mine are not weigh-able either.

MissingMySleep · 13/04/2011 11:00

DH is superfit (yummy) he does triathlons for the Army. He is rock hard muscle and 6 foot tall. His BMI says he is overweight. If he lost weight he would be making himself ill.

BMIs are crap. Ignore them. Love your body, be the size you want to be. I dont want to be as thin in my 40s as I was in my 20s, cos then I would look gaunt.