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to leave the cat out all night, every night?

72 replies

ArtyJennie · 22/03/2011 12:36

I cant handle keeping a litter tray in the house- its gross. The final straw was when I caught my dd(age 3) playing with the litter (aaarg!!) So we have tried to train the cat to go outside.. with some success but not completely. She tends to wee/poo in the living room if we leave her overnight (i guess she has nowhere else to go!) she cant seem to hold it till morning. So the solution has been to put her out at night time. Is this ok for the cat? even when its cold? She has been meowing outside the door/windows wanting to come in.. I do feel a bit guilty.

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heartmoonshadow · 22/03/2011 14:41

I have bought my cats a small rabbit hutch each which are basically a wooden box with a hole at the front, I fill them with old jumpers/carpets etc which I change regularly both cats now go to the door at about 10pm or so and meow to go out problem solved.

Dakiara · 22/03/2011 14:46

Yep. Your cat, your responsibility to keep her safe and your responsibility (or your OH's) to clean up her poos (not your neighbours just because it's "gross").

Of course, I could be biased being faced with cleaning cat poo from our flat roof, vegetable beds, lawns (so my toddler can play outside) and the hardcore of my drive (they dig down that far and cause damage) whilst pregnant. Angry

Dakiara · 22/03/2011 14:48

And a big thank-you to all the owners on this thread that have made an effort to provide somewhere for their cats to go and who clean up after them whenever possible. Wish you all lived around here! :)

penguin73 · 22/03/2011 14:54

Leaving a cat out overnight against its will is cruel - many choose to go out (one of mine included) and are ok, but I would never force them out, particularly in bad weather. Cats need encouragement/training to use a tray and there is lots of good advice available on how to do it, have you actually tried that? You can't easily teach a cat not to do something but if she is trained to use one particular spot (ie the tray) then this should minimise her going anywhere else.

Agree with the poster about the cat seeming to be too much of an inconvenience, if you aren't prepared to put the time/effort in then please find her a loving owner who will be.

baskingseals · 22/03/2011 14:56

my cat goes out every night all night

i did have a cat flap, but couldn't handle the carnage

he does have a shed with some cushions. he comes back in the morining, scoffs vast amounts of food, then sleeps off the night's exertions in the airing cupboard, or if it's sunny on dd's bed.

it's a tough life

baskingseals · 22/03/2011 14:58

i live in the country with no neighbours or foxes though

pranma · 22/03/2011 15:24

I have two cats two litter trays[in porch] and two cat flaps.I would never ever leave one of mine out overnight in Winter.If they are out when we lock up we search and call till they come in then we lock the cat flaps overnight and expect them to use the litter tray.I think it is cruel to lock them out in cold weather.In Summer we do leave one flap[at back] unlocked.

MrsMatelot · 22/03/2011 15:37

Get a covered litter tray with clumping litter, the good quality ones don't smell too bad.

Fit a cat flap, we are renting a house and have taken a panel out of the downstairs loo window (we usually use the back door panel but the door in this house is one unit) and have replaced it with a UPVC panel with a cat flap in it.

Our cats come in & out as they please, in the colder weather they didn't bother going out at night but now its warming up they do.

Still get presents bought in, mostly during the day though! They like to bring in live rodents & watch me chase them! Devils!

NetworkGuy · 22/03/2011 18:13

Until fairly recently (1 year, given she is over 10 years old) my cat would make a noise to go out. Then she started finding any corner, and I now have a litter tray, but while she will sit in it, and just watch the world go by, she never uses it so I am being more vigilant (I just wish she would make a noise - she can be noisy if she is hungry).

Over the past 30-40 years I've looked after 3 cats, first a family cat when I was young... she was somewhat wild and had resented being neutered after having kittens. She spent a lot of time outside, mainly in the cemetery behind the house, and would only make a bit of a fuss to come in if there were foxes about, or it was snowing.

Sexond stayed indoors at night, wanted to roam a lot during the day, and was pretty independent. She died age 16. Most recent (after a gap) was a past neighbour's when they were moving and area has wild cats and foxes. Sophia is extremely friendly, can spend hours away, day or night, or goes out for a walk with me on the estate (some people seem to think that a bit odd).

Neighbourhood cats: 4, 1 tom cat out every night (I was unhappy about it when snow on the ground, but family has always handled it that way, and I know he sleeps in the house all morning and most afternoons).

1 young tom, out mostly in the day, wary of strangers and cats. 1 female, lives next door to 'out all night' and sometimes out sometimes in at night, but can jump up into upper section of bedroom window to enter whenever she wants, but has found herself 'stuck' on roof a few times, during the day.

Can see pros and cons of a cat being outside, but I feel sure that given the option most will not use a litter tray if the garden is available. May be unpopular with neighbours, but cats are oblivious to such fussiness, as one might expect :)

Jacko75 · 27/05/2019 15:11

My neighbour's cat gets locked out day and night, and just gets called in twice a day for feeding. She is 14yrs old. She follows me around the garden but I've stopped her coming into the house because she sprays.
She frantically batters at my old cat flap and cries to come in.
Her owners seem unconcerned, so I'm not getting interest from them. They just think I'm being soft. I don't know what to do. It's making me feel guilty and unhappy.

KellyW88 · 27/05/2019 15:58

We have four cats and twin toddlers - it’s a flipping nightmare keeping the litter trays sorted and out of the twins reach, but we do so because we (DH and I) had the cats before we had children and it’s our responsibility to look after them.

As your DH was more in favour of having a cat than you were maybe get a covered tray as PP have suggested and make clearing/cleaning it one of his jobs? I did this with my DH (even though it was a mutual decision to keep ours) and my reasoning was, I do most of the housework being a SAHM, so I’m constantly battling against their fur being EVERYWHERE, also cleaning up any sick if they’re under the weather or have decided to eat grass, one has pollen allergies so sneezes all over the place in summer so I’m cleaning that up too, it’s honestly a never ending battle :’) so the LEAST he can do is clear the trays haha

If your cat adapts to life outside at night I wouldn’t say it’s cruel (but I’d be wary depending on your location) but if it’s not something she can adapt to maybe set up a space in your back garden for her to feel safe in/retreat to if she feels threatened by anything?

bee222 · 27/05/2019 16:24

I feel sad for your cat.
If you can't deal with a litter tray, and only want them to have access to your kitchen and living room, then you shouldn't have pets.

SentientPotato · 27/05/2019 16:27

This thread is 8 years old.

WillowPeach · 27/05/2019 16:27

You should feel guilty. What a terrible way to treat your pet.

How would you feel OP if you couldn’t hold your bladder and bowels all night and as a result had to sleep outside?

Either treat your pet properly or don’t have them. It’s not hard. I’m so over selfish people getting animals who cba to look after them properly - especially for pathetic reasons like ‘it’s gross’.

DaisiesAreOurSilver · 27/05/2019 16:29

It's a cat willow not a person. Get a grip.

Saavhi · 27/05/2019 16:31

Why get a cat if you find litter trays "gross"?

RedRedBluee · 27/05/2019 16:32

Ffs. How about not get a cat in the first place if you can’t take care of it’s BASIC needs.

Poor cat.

EmrysAtticus · 27/05/2019 16:45

Sorry but cats shouldn't be out at night and litter trays are just part of having a cat.

TheSultanofPingu · 27/05/2019 16:54

Well the Op's daughter will be 11 now, so hopefully she's grown out of playing with cat litter.

PBobs · 27/05/2019 19:47

Dettol is toxic to cats. And I'm not sure why your neighbours should deal with your cat's shit in their garden when you don't want to deal with it.

PBobs · 27/05/2019 19:47

FFS ZOMBIE THREAD

NannyRed · 27/05/2019 20:19

Put in a cat flap, have a litter tray somewhere you child can’t access it (ours is in the en suite)

Don’t throw your poor cat out all night, cats like to sleep at night.

I hope you don’t get any future pets.

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