To not want to be slagged off all the time because I was born in England?

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I've lived in Ireland nearly my whole life and my heritage is Irish essentially Both my parents were born in England when my grandparents went there to work when times were hard. My parents grew up in England, met each other, had me, moved to Ireland and had my sister etc. Even though my family tree would be Irish and my son was born here I'm not ashamed of having been born in England and I love it there and still have plenty of family there. My problem is that a lot of the people I know slag off the English all the time to the point I actually end up getting into heated discussions with them. Usually on FB over Football matches and such but sometimes in RL as well.

AIBU to expect that If you really hate the English that much and insistent on labeling every English person a C**T then maybe you shouldn't be such a hypocrite and Go to England, eat English food, watch English tv shows/films and support English football teams? I think i might actually be over sensitive but it honestly bothers me :(

It's all racism and is extremely tedious to say the least.

Some people need to feel part of something bigger than themselves, something "important" in order to feel a bit more important themselves, like supporting a football team or clinging on to your national stereotypes identity. And some fuckwits feel the need to slag off and look down on "the other" in order to feel more a part of their "pack". Sad and ignorant and very tedious indeed.

Oh god chipmonkey, the term "foreign nationals". I'm surrounded by it here.

I can remember as a 6 year old being beaten up at school because I was born in Germany and the English won the war. In fact, I was born on a British military camp in Germany: my father was in the British Army. Which all just goes to show how truly screwed up and illogical racism can be!

I think it's got better in England because there are so many more nationalities here now and the multicultural ethos has been really pushed in education. With knowledge and understanding comes tolerance and that's why I think it's so important that RE lessons are continued in schools.

I'm half Irish and I'm married to a Welshman with a Scottish stepfather. At least, I thought I was until certain family gossip came to light indicating that the half Irish bit might actually be half American . I've long since given up trying to work all out.
Who cares, anyhow?

I asked someone once why they hated the English so much - apparently it's because of the clearances and historically how the English treated the Scots.

Mad, isn't it? Look how the English treated their own people at the time! Children sent out to work in mines and factories, or sent up chimneys; parents imprisoned or executed for stealing food to feed starving families. So historical arguments for hating a whole nation really don't stand up at all.

"Fuck of back to Jockland"
"Don't talk your fucking jockinese to me"
"fuck off back to Scotland, fucking Scots coming down here like fucking immigrants taking our jobs"
"Bloody scrounging Scots , fuck off back there"
"I wish fucking scotland was fucking independent, then we wouldn't have to pay for you all"

Hmm, not just Scots racist towards English then is it. Every single one of those comments has been said to me, and there's many more.

I can tell you any jibes I got in Ireland for sounding English (years ago, not now) were nothing compared to going back to England with an Irish accent and getting "jokes" about not trusting me with a bag cos it probably had a bomb in it, and stuff like that. Usually from twats who didn't know the difference between Dublin and Belfast.

Where do you love?

I grew up in cork but was born in Holland to an Irish mother and never had any nastiness...

DP's father is Irish born but spent a long time in England, including the British Army, and has lived back in Tipp for 30 years but still has a cockney accent.... he doesn't get any shit either.

Where we live no in the West there are practically more British than Irish, several of the children's friends have British parents and some of them are second generation Irish who moved back when their parents returned and I can't honestly say I've come across any of what you've mentioned.

FGS, my mother was born round here and when she was growing up the vast majority of the working age males had to go to Britain for work. All three of her brothers and her father did... most people here had the same happen in their families... why would they mock those returning to Ireland?

I'm sorry the situation is so differant where you live... and I'm ed too tbh.... it's not the norm elsewhere!

Scottish people don't seem to mind Geordies though.

There are racists and idiots in every country within the UK. However some of the anti - Englishness that comes to the fore during sports matches isn't a hatred of all things English.
it's the fact that the Biased Broadcasting Corporation, the sports commentators and to an extent, the English sports footballers players always assume they are going to win.

I remember once the BBC took up 20 mintues of the 6pm news bulletiin because David Beckhma had been dropped from the English team. One the same day 4 soldiers were killed in and god knows what else was going on in the world, but 20 mintues and it was lead story.

like is aid, I know there's some idiots, but calling us cave dwellers and tarring all Scots/Irish the same is worng. I don't hate all English just because I was told to fuck off back to jockland.

Sugar, I think traditionally the English have just quietly loathed everyone without too much fuss, the French, the Germans, the Welsh, the Americans.....its rather equality based xenophobia...

ps doon, you know Irelands not in the UK though?

I know it's not. I was being general in my comments.I ahve friends from NI who have had no end of shit comments from English people asking if they have ever driven a car bomb or knecapped someone

I ahve no idea what happend to my last post, half of it has disappeared and it makes no sense.

sugarpaste - no, because not all Scots hate "the English" so we can't be tarring all English the ssame grin]

I got asked that once,in a pub, the knee-capping thing! I said no, but I'm thinking of starting now, and gave him this . Twat.

Another friend of mine from Dublin once got asked, whilst we were in a pub in Birmingham in 1995,-"whats your opinion on the Gervachy Road situation" (apologies for spelling if it's wrong)
When she siad she didn't ahve na opinion as she was from Dublin, she was told "well you irish are all terrorists so you must have an opinion"

People have made racist comments to me (in England) about 'the Irish' without realising that I have Irish parents.
The worst - and it still annoys me - was made pointedly by a senior member of staff at a school I once worked in. She also moaned about Polish people though so an all round bigot.

I wish fucking scotland was fucking independent, then we wouldn't have to pay for you all

I think English people are generally becoming fed up with Scots as they realise how common anti-English sentiment is in Scotland.

It was common 20 years ago for English people to cheer on Scotland in international football or rugby games for example: I know I used to. Then I had the unfortunate experience of being in a pub in Pitlochry with a couple of English friends when England were playing South Africa at Rugby. It was an experience I'll never forget. I don't cheer for Scotland any more.

When I was a student working in the US for the summer, we painted the tip cup in shamrocks and put "Tips for the Irish" on it because most people gave us bigger tips when they saw it!

There was one guy who asked if we were going to use it to buy bombs, though.

a1980 people in n ireland pay uni fees, pay for dental care and pay for elderly rsidential care. i think you've got a bit mixed up there

I am English but have been living in wales for 4 years now. When I first moved here I had no bad feelings about the welsh at all. Now, I am fed up of living in a place where people hate me because I am English. Had a "discussion" at work about this the other day, some welsh aholes saying to my face "I hate the English so much, I would rather die than live in england" although I am certain if I had said the same things to them about wales, there would have been big trouble for me. They can dish it out but cannot take it back, and they cannot handle their drink!