To think that children should not be allowed in Ann Summers shops?

[JM31]

I was in the East Kilbride Ann Summers shop today and there were two children in there with their parents - ages between 12 and 14 I reckon. I had no idea kids were allowed in. I asked the shop assistant and she said they were allowed but only in the front part of the shop. As she was telling me this we could both clearly see the kids standing in the back of the shop, right next to the vibrators and fetish gear.
As for the front of the shop - it had a manniquin wearing a PVC rubber bra and pants, and the peephole bras and crotchless pants were the featured display right next to the door.

Ann Summers thinks it is ok for kids to see this, what do you think?

PeterAndreForPM

Very odd.

You clearly know nothing about trolling. attention seeking, are we?

Have you something against me, sweetgilly ?

Did you not like what I said to you on the comic relief thread...is that what this is about ?

Best to spit it out, instead of crashing another thread to try and wind me up. It's only fair on other posters, tbh, and will save a lot of time.

or better still, take it up on the thread in question, instead of following someone around the boards to attempt to discredit them

sweetgilly Sat 19-Mar-11 19:43:46

LilaTheBrave

I wish your da had not donated his sperm.

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PeterAndreForPM Sat 19-Mar-11 19:46:04
lila might be a twat, but sweetgilly's particularly nasty comment was uncalled-for

Not something I normally do, but justified in this particular instance, I feel, since SG feels justified in trying to wind me up for no other reason I can think of

You are giving me the creeps. What a strange comment to make. What I find sinister, is the fact that you have taken the trouble to do a search on me. Are you a stalker? Are you aged 15?

Following you around the boards, pmsl. Is this wishful thinking? Please show ALL THE THREADS where I have followed you. Me thinks you can't handle someone with a difference of opinion.

I think you are an attention seeker.

PETER ANDRE AND SWEETGILLY

You are making a holy show of yourselves

PeterAndreForPM Sun 20-Mar-11 18:07:53

Forgive me, but what is it with the silly smiley faces. As I said, are you 15. BTW, I am still waiting for the evidence of me following you around the boards. Do you often tell lies? Do you suffer from low self esteem?

beesimo

Really.

it's ok, bees, I'm done

Ones in the wrong for rising to it

Ones in the wrong fullstop

beesimo

Try not to worry your pretty little head about it.

Sorry, PAFPM, sweetgilly, nurseblade for ignoring yr little spat.

I 'commented' much earlier today on this thread & have been keeping an eye on it since. [wet emoticon]As far as I can see,at no time have the 2 children in the OP;s post been identified as 12 & 14 yo girls.

So maybe they were boys out shopping with their mum for sex toys?? Puts a bit of a diferent gloss on it?

siobahnagain Sun 20-Mar-11 18:19:25
Sorry, PAFPM, sweetgilly, nurseblade for ignoring yr little spat.

No problem. You didn't miss much.

I don't agree with laws or rules hiding sex from kids, but I do agree that bringing a kid in Ann Summers with you is the HEIGHT of tackiness.

That's an interesting stance, Bacchus, and understandable given your name.

I'd be interested in how you would run things though. I think it's great that there are laws and rules hiding sex from kids - I think that being exposed to sex at a young age is very problematic and of course there is the whole paedophile problem. How would you see things operating without the rules - do you see the benefits as outweighing the risks in this department - what actually are the benefits of exposing children to sex? I can't get my head around where you're coming from if I'm honest.

I suppose that many people don't have a problem with children seeing page 3 / cover of nuts zoo etc / will take them into ann summers but I think most people draw the line at children seeing sex acts in the flesh as it were. Is it just a theory that it's all natural (as per the page 3 argument) but extended to include all sexual material?

I am not allowed in those shops and I am 45

Sardine, you're right to question my post I was not specific enough.

I don't agree with deliberately exposing kids to things of a sexual nature (probably wrong word to use, agreed). Imo it should be discreet, and, if the DC asks, talked about in an appropriate and gentle way.

As for the page three argument... not heard that one before but I agree that it's a bad way to think about it! A woman's body is natural, but the people in those photographs look anything but, if you know what I mean! Also, posting nipples in a newspaper for the titilation of sleazy brits is NOT natural or nice.

Thanks for coming back Bacchus, your post had me a bit and really???. I see it was a misunderstanding now! (Phew!) And I agree with you about page 3 too

Yesterday 31st Jan, my daughter who is over the age of 18yrs and sometimes goes to the Ann Somers shop in Exeter. While visiting the shop yesterday she was very upset to see a girl of about 4yrs being screamed at by her mother to stand still while her mother enjoyed a conversation with the shop assistant. What was even more shocking was that the girl was pushed in amongst the sex toys. My daughter confronted the assistant and the mother, and was laughed at by both. Can anyone tell me does this shop have any responsibility towards this child, I know the mother has, but what about the staff in this shop.

Bearing in mind that most 12 or 14 yos find the idea of having parents at all humiliating, being seen in public with parents is social suicide and the concept of "old" people having sex revolting - I can only begin to imagine the excruciating embarrassment of being taken to a an AS shop by your parents.

Some people are sticking their heads in the sand if they don't think that by 10, many young girls are becoming sexual! We are sexual beings by birth, that is just the way it is. I know I was thinking sexual thoughts by 10 and many girls in the schoolyard were talking about sex. Not saying you should introduce them to Ann Summers at that age though!

I took my todder son in once as I was out shopping and had to nip in for some secret santa gifts. He found the plastic boobs most entertaining but the woman working in there told he was not allowed in the shop and would have to wait outside.

He was about 2!!

I told her I would buy my rabbit elsewhere :)

I wouldn't want my children to see vibrators and sex toys and I can't understand anyone who would?

It's one thing being open with them about sex but quite another to have sex toys shoved in front of them. It wasn't so long ago that these toys and other fetish gear was only available in shops with blacked out windows.

I want my kids to grow up knowing that sex is a loving and respectful act not something out of 50 Shades of pissing Grey. If adults want to buy this stuff then go ahead, but why expose kids to it? What view does that give them of sex? I'm sure they can find out about sex toys for themselves without parental intervention.

And as another poster said, these things are fine for us adults to see but children are still developing emotionally and physically and we are expecting them to view sex toys through adults eyes. They are emotionally too mature to be exposed to this under the age of 15 I would say, depending on the child.

I also hate it when stores like Peacocks have chocolate willies and candy tits right in front of the tills. It makes sex and naked bodies to be something akin to farts and bottoms. Something that is rude and that's now how I want my kids to view either sex or their own bodies.

Oh, seems I missed a good spat earlier on. Who'd have thought that a thread about taking children into an Ann Summer's shop would create such divided opinions and lead to sneering insults?

I hate Ann Summers. I hate that I have to walk my young DDs past a shop entrance featuring two enormous cut outs of a woman bent over in stockings and basque.

My mind boggles at taking children in. They should have an age limit.