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My boss forged my signature

24 replies

sunchild77 · 15/03/2011 16:17

AIBU to be upset?

I work in a small lettings agency - owned by husband and wife team. There are only 2 other employees, myself and an office junior.

My employer and his wife are building a "portfolio" of property that they rent out.

Anyway, at the end of last week, whilst he is out at lunch and his Wife was away, I get a call from one of the banks, who were "just checking" on the letter "I'd" apparently sent via fax confirming the salary of Boss's wife. (I'm pretty sure they are buying another property)

I must have sounded like a complete dork, but I twigged that Bossman must have sent off a letter with my name on it etc. I just said yeah that it was confirmed etc, and came off the phone. I rooted in the bin and found the pieces of the letter that bossman had sent where he "confirmed" that his wife is paid £28K.
He had forged my signature at the end of the letter.

AIBU to be raging mad? Is there actually anything I can do? I hate my boss as it is, but need the job etc.

OP posts:
wolfhound · 15/03/2011 16:19

That sounds like fraud to me. I'm not a lawyer, but I imagine the bank would take a pretty dim view of that. Perhaps you should post in the legal section for advice? I would think that by 'confirming' over the phone, if you don't do anything, you are perhaps implicated in the fraud (since presumably you can't confirm any such thing as you don't know what she gets paid).

GuardianMummy · 15/03/2011 16:19

Oh my GOD!!!!!!!!!! That is scandalous!

No advice just support for your ask - no, YANBU!

gordyslovesheep · 15/03/2011 16:19

well of course YANBU - if she isn't paid £28K a year it's fraud - with YOUR name on

actually it's fraud regardless

MmeLindt · 15/03/2011 16:22

I would get legal advice, tbh.

Any chance of changing jobs? They sound awful.

IslaValargeone · 15/03/2011 16:23

Shock No YANBU
That's outrageous and I would definitely be seeking advice, as it is fraud and he has put you in a terrible position.

oldwomaninashoe · 15/03/2011 16:27

Is she paid £28K ?
Or is it fraudulent misrepresentation?

AgentZigzag · 15/03/2011 16:32

Why on earth did you confirm it??

That's why the banks ring you to check it was you.

The time to question it was when you were onto the bank.

IslaValargeone · 15/03/2011 16:33

Yes I forgot about that bit, why did you confirm it?

controlpantsandgladrags · 15/03/2011 16:36

You already know this, but you shouldn't have confirmed it. If the 28K is accurate I wouldn't worry too much, but if it's a figure pulled out of thin air then I think you have to speak to him.

sunchild77 · 15/03/2011 16:36

I dont know how much she is paid. (I doubt it is 28K, but that is beside the point)

I know I should have questioned it then. That makes me guilty doesnt it?? urgh

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controlpantsandgladrags · 15/03/2011 16:37

Yes it does. You need to speak to your boss, tell him about the call from the bank and ask him to explain himself. Can you call the bank back?

jaffacake79 · 15/03/2011 16:37

wtf?! It's fraud. Ask your boss what's going on. Call the CAB for some advice too in case he gets shitty.

starfishmummy · 15/03/2011 16:39

I think I would be wondering what else he was putting my name on.......

IsinDeBetterPlace · 15/03/2011 16:42

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MadMommaMemoo · 15/03/2011 16:43

This could get you in serious crap! I would get some legal advice.

frgr · 15/03/2011 16:44

  1. i would be worried about what else the boss is prepared to do. is your own paperwork such as NI contributions, declarations, in order?
  1. I would ask him about it and consider reporting for fraud. this is very serious - what if she obtained a mortgage in her name based on that signed documentation (it must be for something important - why request it in writing and then chase with a phone call?) you could find yourself in a worse situation a year, 5 years down the line.

this would be immensely stressful for me - but be calm, take legal advice, you've done nothing wrong initially - admittedly it's bad that you confirmed it on the phone and lied to say you knew about the letter... hm Hmm

Hassled · 15/03/2011 16:45

Well yes, you shouldn't have confirmed it but caught on the hop like that I can see why you did.

I would get job-hunting pronto. If he's lying about salaries to get a mortgage on a buy-to-let, then it's all going to go tits up fairly soon anyway.

LaWeasel · 15/03/2011 16:45

Call the bank back asap and say - actually I'm not sure, can I get back to you tomorrow.

Then get legal advice.

HecateTheCrone · 15/03/2011 16:47

so what are you going to do if this comes back on you and the bank come after you for lying?

AgentZigzag · 15/03/2011 16:47

What about getting back onto the bank and saying you misunderstood what they were asking?

Let them deal with it.

claricebeansmum · 15/03/2011 16:48

On the spur of the moment I would have done what you did.

But now I would be job hunting and I would also be calling the bank - in private - to explain the situation.

beesimo · 15/03/2011 17:22

This man and his wife may be up to all sorts this could just be the tip of the iceberg you need to put as much distance between you and them as possible. They could be intending to use you as the patsy. By agreeing it was your signature you have got yourself in a right pickle. Ring the bank tommorow and say there has been a misunderstanding they will not be happy about it if necessary start to cry and say you are scared of your boss losing your job ect. You need to give the truthful impression that you are a mere pawn in his gammy games. Act a bit thick say your Father told you to ring the bank and sort it out you are so worried ect ect. Then walk out of your job no wage packet is worth going to court for. Whats hes done is definite grounds for employers compensation as he has made it impossible for you to continue working there.

eileenslightlytotheleft · 15/03/2011 17:28

Keep the pieces of the letter as evidence just in case.

plupedantic · 15/03/2011 17:31

A friend of mine discovered his NI contributions and tax hadn't been paid, either, so it can and does happen. I had been at the same company, but as a contractor, so was taking care of my own tax/NI, thank goodness....

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