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to not want to trust the "professionals"-11mo gastroenteritis

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RueLaChesty · 14/03/2011 22:00

hi more of a WWYD but was hoping for quick replies.

my 11mo DD has viral gastroenteritis. She first started vomiting on thursday and on friday after 24 hours of keeping nothing down i phoned NHS 24 to be advised that she was teething and to keep giving her calpol and teething gel! After i assured the woman it wasn't teething she told me to try her with an oz of milk at a time to try and gauge how much she was keeping down and phone back later. So a few hours later, positive that she wasn't keeping anything down i phone back and get a different chap who tells me to go to gp and he sends message to gp.

So gp phones and gives me an appt for 2pm (this was 11am) and tells me that i should give her 5ml water every 5 min. So we do and arrive for appt to be told its not till 4 and receptionist tells us that the gp that called is gone for the day and all others are on house calls bar one who refuses to see her until 4pm. Another GP walks in at this point and takes one look at her and agrees to see her. He refers us to paed dept at hospital.

We go and they take BM level which is lower than range (3.4) and are told that we shouldn't have been giving her plain water but sugared water or diluting juice but ideally diorolyte which they give us and ask us to try get a urine sample. This is no easy task froma dehydrated 11mo so we sit in a room administering 5ml of diorolyte every 5 mins from 2:30pm until 11pm when we get a urine sample.

it is clear so we are discharged and told to contine with the 5x5 of diorolyte through night and try her with 1-2oz of milk in morning.

We do this and DD vomits again, try again at midday and she vomits again. So phone hospital and they say "oh no if she has gastroenteritis don't give her milk, just bland food". So gave her carrot and she kept it down, hurrah!

Yesterday, however, she was back to vomiting, not a lot so we just persevere with bottles of diorolyte and bland food.

today, she's back to vomiting all solids and is only keeping down her 3 bottles of diorolyte so i phone hospital again and they suggest just giving her diorolyte till thursday but she is screaming for food, although throwing it back up!

Now, my question is wwyd? Does anyone know if diorolyte is fine for a full week? I'm at my wits end and feel like i'm starving her, she is lethargic. Ie she can walk/crawl etc but today she barely has the energy to get off my knee. But shes not floppy or anything.

To top it all off i went to pharmacy to ask for diorolyte from minor ailments so sales assistant went to ask pharmacist who i heard say "can you even give it to under ones" so assistant comes back and refuses to give it on minor ailments so i said ok i'll just buy it and she refuses to sell me it as DD is under one and you can't give it to under ones. She claims that the box states its not suitable for under ones and i tell her it doesn't as the box she had in her hand is same one i purchased from asda and it says for under 2s see a doctor which i have and it was doctor recommended but she still refused!!! Arghhhh.....

Sorry its such a rant! :(

OP posts:
gooseberrybushes · 15/03/2011 00:57

How awful for you.

FWIW I would take bland food to be plain mash veggies. This is what I always did with d&v. No dairy for a week, no juice or much sugar for a couple of days at least. No biscuits, no wheat for a couple of days.

I hope she's better soon. Sounds desperately worrying.

Mummy2LZ · 15/03/2011 01:53

I know its been a while since you posted and I hope your DD is much better today.
I went through 3 major gastro bugs with DD1 when she was around the same age and twice she was hospitalised for fluid therapy to give the stomach a chance to rest and to rehydrate her.
If you are still worried take her to the Childrens hospital and tell them how long its been going on for.
It did take my DD at least 10 days to get over the vomiting and I know how stressful it is when they dont eat.
We are in Brisbane and are very lucky with the treatment we have had over here they admitted her straight away with out any questions.
You can also get an Electrolyte drink specifically for children, make it up into Ice blocks if that makes it more apealing, and continue giving her small amounts often as you are doing.
I hope she gets better soon.
Good Luck

Gemsy83 · 15/03/2011 07:23

Sorry but a BM of above 2.6 is ok for a child her age (where im from anyway!)

FabbyChic · 15/03/2011 07:37

No baby should go six days puking. You really need to be firm and take her into hospital and say she has been being sick for six days, is not keeping any food down.

It is too long for a baby to go.

sparkle12mar08 · 15/03/2011 07:45

A&E, and refuse to leave until she's been hydrated properly. Six days?! I'd be camping outside the chief execs office...

benandholly · 15/03/2011 07:56

You need to have her seen at hospital asap and you need to be shouting up and down as loudly as you can until they get a drip into her. My 10 month old had this, it was rotavirus and we were sent home from the hospital saying just to keep him dehydrated and 15 hours later her was seriously ill and had to be resusitated in hospital as he was so dehydrated. He then spent 4 days and 3 nights in hospital. I never ever want anyone to experience what we went through, please go back to hospital and don't leave until she's properly treated.

RueLaChesty · 15/03/2011 08:00

thanks for all your advice!

I have just given her porridge made with water and she's dozing on my knee (only got up 45 mins ago) so i'm going to keep an eye on her and take her up if she vomits again. i have plenty of mashed veg frozen in portions anyway so i'll give her that later.

She had a dry nappy on this morning and that was from 8pm but she weed all over the floor when i took it off. Not as strong smelling as it was a couple of days ago.

Gemsy the doc in paed dept told us it should be between 4 and 7 (or 8?) but definitely from 4 so although not drastically low a good thing we went in rather than carried on giving her water. But i have been told a million different things!

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TattyDevine · 15/03/2011 09:07

Haven't had a chance to read full thread only OP and have to do school run BUT

Milk is BAD after gastro. If you have an 11 month who seems recovered then you give them milk and they chuck, its the milk that's made them chuck generally.

I had an excellent doc in Oz who got my 11 month old son (who is now nearly 4) over a bug that seemed to be going on forever and it was simply that we were feeding him the wrong stuff.

No milk, no fruit or fruit juice, no plain water. Stick to diorolyte for at least a couple of days. Food can be bread, meat, veg. NO FRUIT, even bananas are a no-no. Gatorade or Powerade is fine (I know, its fluro, yuck, stick to Diorolyte). They need a certain balance of sugars and salts, and water messes with that too. You know what is really good? Ready salted crisps! I couldn't believe it when he said but its plain, got a good amount of salt, and the fat will help settle the stomach too. I know its a lot of salt for an 11 month old but they are not going to eat a whole packet are they.

I guess what I'm trying to say is apart from avoiding certain things, there are other things you might allow due to their handy salt and sugar content that will aid recovery that you might not normally allow!

No milk! At 11 months they CAN do without it, if its doing more harm than good.

RueLaChesty · 15/03/2011 13:21

thanks Tatty, great advice.

So she has slept most of the morning but when she woke up she had a very wet nappy. I'm hoping that this is a good sign and no vomiting so far today. :)

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KittaKatta · 15/03/2011 14:57

Good to hear

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