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to be a bit defensive? (parents and housework standards)

59 replies

LifeIsButtercream · 13/03/2011 15:24

I wouldn't go as far as to say my parents are neat-freaks, but they are both retired and have a nice home and plenty of time to keep it to the standards that they choose.

I'm a lone parent, with a one-toddler-demolition-crew 22m old, and I'd be the first to admit that I am the Clutter Queen (not as bad as I used to be mind!). My home is not dirty, a hoover a couple of times a week, every night all the toys get put away, the washing up is (usually) done daily and the kitchen cleaned and wiped down. Most of the housework is done when DD is in bed (I see little point in tidying away toys when DD is going to tip them out again in 5 minutes). Basically you'd be hard-pressed to find anything dangerous in my house, but you also won't find a show-home.

Whenever my parents come round, they always seem to find something out of place, stuff piled on the sofa, a teatowel on the kitchen floor, some 'shoemud' on the hall carpet from DD's wellies, plastic fish under the sofa, half-unpacked bag of shopping, pile of washing-up waiting to be done etc etc etc..... which always prompts my mum to say something like "are you struggling to keep on top of the housework?" or "oh, I see you've worked your magic in here" or "I wouldn't leave the kitchen like that, I like a clean kitchen" or "I wouldn't do anything else if I had that to do".

I try and try to explain that sometimes I'm busy with DD, we're doing activities, I'm cooking, etc etc etc. Of course its always midday when they come round so there is always some chaos - they don't see it in the evenings when I've had chance to do everything. I wanna make the most of the time I get with DD and not leave her alone all the time cos I'm buffing the bath taps/massaging the worktops/polishing the cat.

So sometimes I get a bit defensive, gently mind - I've not actually gone as far as to say "back off" but I've gently indicated that I'm aware of what needs doing and will get round to it - although this is usually met with "well I don't understand why you don't just do it".

Recently they've started indicating that its not a healthy environment for DD, and she might "end up like me". I don't like them saying that, like I'm some kind of slovenly squalor-dweller.

My mum's fave line is "our home was never like this when you were DD's age" - I have pointed out to her that my dad was also there when not at work so she did have more toddler-free time than I do.

And yes, I know I'm an undomesticated nightmare, its totally not my area! But I'm also not a dangerous mum!

Basically, I do now what needs doing now, and leave the rest for later - my mum does EVERYTHING now, but also has the time to do that.

AIBU to be a little defensive - and think its not that big a deal?

Blimey - thanks for reading - that turned into a rant! I feel much better now! Smile

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PlasticLentilWeaver · 13/03/2011 19:22

Tidier.

herbietea · 13/03/2011 19:30

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BabyYoureAFirework · 13/03/2011 19:35

Yes, but I have been at home with small children! I do remember what it's like.... it all depends what the OP considers a mess. Like I say, I'm no clean freak, I can assure you. I just think that you do what needs to be done. Nobody likes doing it.

BabyYoureAFirework · 13/03/2011 19:36

And I have a teenager that gets home an hour before I do and goes through the house like a whirlwind. So it's by no means tidy when I get home either.

usualsuspect · 13/03/2011 19:38

My grown up dd came to mine today and told me my sofa needed cleaning Grin

MmaIvvy · 13/03/2011 19:40

YANBU AT ALL
My Mum does the same thing and drives me crazy and actually upsets me. If it's not the fact that there is too much washing in the basket or the ironings not done, it's telling me to lose weight!

She seems to enjoy being a martyr (no idea how to spell it!) and I've noticed recently that she judges everyone, including her own friends. (oh so and so has had the same old kitchen for 20 years. WHO CARES?!!)

I hope you find a solution and if you do, let me know what it is!!

PlasticLentilWeaver · 13/03/2011 19:43

Yes herbietea that was my point. Our house is so much easier to manage when we stay out of it. Two small kids, two adults, a dog and a cat = mess. Leave the place empty while we both work, and it looks the same when we get home as when we left.

bibbitybobbityhat · 13/03/2011 19:57

If parents are at work and child is in nursery or cm, then there is less mess to tidy up. There is far more tidying and cooking and cleaning up after cooking to do if you are sahm.

Surely everyone gets that? Its a bit of a no brainer.

PurpleRayne · 13/03/2011 19:58

Print this out and put it up on the wall :-)

DUST IF YOU MUST

Dust if you must, but wouldn't it be better,
To paint a picture or write a letter,
Bake a cake or plant a seed,
Ponder the difference between want and need?
Dust if you must, but there's not much time,
With rivers to swim and mountains to climb,
Music to hear and books to read,
Friends to cherish and life to lead.
Dust if you must, but the world's out there
With the sun in your eyes, the wind in your hair,
A flutter of snow, a shower of rain.
This day will not come 'round again.
Dust if you must, but bear in mind,
Old age will come and it's not always kind.
And when you go and go you must,
You, yourself, will make more dust.

SuchProspects · 13/03/2011 20:01

I'm at home with my DCs most of the time and the only housework I really do is the put things in the washing machine. Two mornings a week I have a babysitter. She keeps the house much tidier than I do, but she doesn't take my DCs places or bake with them or many of the other things I do.

It isn't that I can't stay on top of the housework. It's that I think other things are more important. And that really is my choice, just as it's the OP's.

SuchProspects · 13/03/2011 20:04

PurpleRayne - that's a much better way of saying it. Grin

QueenCatherine · 13/03/2011 20:05

I know someone with a super clean house (show home standards) with 2 boys aged 3 and 5. Once she proudly told me her boys had watched 4 films in a row while she did the housework - that's around 6 hours of tv Shock

I think she was surprised I wasn't impressed...

herbietea · 13/03/2011 20:22

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portaloo · 13/03/2011 20:26

YANBU.

My mother is exactly the same, walks in and usually says 'Oh dear Oh dear Oh dear...Having a bad day are we?' and I don't need to invite her to help clean...she always always finds something to do, whether I've just done it or not, she'll go over it again for her own peace of mind. It makes me feel like she truly believes I can't cope, and I find it insulting to say the least. My sister is worse, she'll clap at me and shout 'chop chop, get the dishes done' Shock
They always feign hurt feelings when I say I don't want or need help.
I have to fight the urge to manically clean when I know they're coming over.
My mum refers to me as 'in the nicest possible way...a slob' Not sure how that can be said in any sort of nice way. No matter how many hours I dedicate to cleaning though, they'll find something to do, and still tell me 'You don't like housework much.'. They've formed their opinions and no matter how much I clean now, they'll never ever change their opinions. Yes, mum did keep her home much cleaner/tidier than me, but I would've prefered Mum to watch me skate down the road on my new roller skates, or take me to the park or watch a movie with me. Actually, I'd have preferred Mum to do anything with me, rather than do it all alone while she spent every spare moment cleaning. Mum has only ever been interested in cleaning and doesn't understand how I can enjoy reading/internet/tv/seeing friends instead of cleaning my house. My mum neglected her DC to clean instead. If I was to clean my house to my mums standards, I'd have to spend hours and hours cleaning and doing other housework/gardening, I'd have no friends (apart from the fucking hoover) and I'm not prepared to sacrifice my relationship with my DC to achieve that.
Not found a way of dealing with it effectively though.

Itrymybest · 13/03/2011 20:32

YANBU Everytime my mum visits every time my mum visits she sets to to start tidying up my house. She hand me things "to take upstairs" even if thats not actually where they go last time she put loads of mags dc things and books etc that she felt were not where they should be on the dining room table "because she didnt know where they should go"! She did all this while I was making coffee which is afterall why she had come to visit ( or so she said anyway!!) Angry

PlasticLentilWeaver · 13/03/2011 20:57

I know herbie - sorry if you misunderstood, am on my phone, so not typing in full.

bibbitybobbityhat · 13/03/2011 22:53

These rather sad posts remind me of someone I know who has a large house and garden and three children, no cleaner, and yet her house is always tidy when I go round there. I remember once admiring her newly-created vegetable patch in the garden and she had all sorts of seeds planted up in her greenhouse. I said to her in an admiring way, "Wow, how do you get all this done with your youngest still only in nursery for two hours a day?" and she said, oh he's quite happy to watch tv while I'm out here gardening.

Thought that was dreadful.

Mumleigh · 13/03/2011 23:17

My lovely 82 year old neighbour told me once that she bitterly resents every moment she spent doing housework while her children were growing up. She told me to ignore any mess and enjoy the children as in no time at all they will be grown up and off living their own lives.

I happily took her advice!

As long as your home is safe and healthy it's no ones business but your own

YANBU

Mumleigh · 13/03/2011 23:20

PurpleRayne - I think I'm going to print that out and frame it - fantastic.

pippitysqueakity · 14/03/2011 01:11

Some lovely sane advice on here, think will have to take it myself. We living in midden just now as decoraters in and all children's belongings scattered through flat. Can't tell if surfaces clean or not, can't see them. My Father just phoned to say is coming to stay tomorrow (today now I think) night.
He is no clean freak but does like to think I have things just so, because am female so is my job (not the 40 hour week I work, outside of home) He will not look at DH and say, 'so , things getting on top of you?', despite DH being SAHD and children in full time school, and to be fair, may not say that to me directly but implication will be there, always is. I should be the one on top of housework because...well just because,
aaaargh, thank you, rant over...and breathe.

ZacharyQuack · 14/03/2011 07:08

I think you should tell her straight.

"Mum, I'm an adult and this is my home. I'm comfortable with the state of it and I find it really rude that you make comments every time you visit. It doesn't make me want you to come around here. Cut it out, or we'll have to meet somewhere else."

You don't have to justify what you choose to do with your time, and you don't have to clean to her standards.

MrsSchadenfreude · 14/03/2011 07:30

My mother is like this, too. Some friends came to visit recently, and she asked them when they got back whether "the house was a filthy tip." Nice.

When I first had my own flat, my parents came to visit and my mother rearranged all of my furniture in the sitting and dining rooms - "it looks so much better like this." She cried when I told her it was my flat, my furniture, my arrangement, and to move it all back where it was. They also (unknown to me) kept a key to my flat, called in and dropped some stuff off when I was out. And left me a note telling me what a disgusting mess the flat was in (mug and plate in the sink, cup in bedroom). The small amount of washing up had been ostentaciously done and left on the side, my bed made "properly" (no creases in the duvet), the sofas plumped and my work papers tidied neatly away.

I think it's a control thing - they can't accept you're an adult too.

blackeyedsusan · 14/03/2011 07:40

no, no no, it's not freshly burgled, it is a burgular trap How can a burgular creep quietly across a minefield of widely scattered toys?

have you tried ringing your mum in the evening when you have finished your cleaning and invite her round then? they will really love to be disturbed invited at (insert late hour) Grin

ps does anyone know how to get half chewed cornflakes out of a keyboard?

differentnameforthis · 14/03/2011 08:42

Stop explaining. When she says anything, just don't comment.

None of her business how you run your home.

ziva · 14/03/2011 08:44

nobody lies on their death bed saying i wish i played less with my kids and cleaned more.
enjoy your dd before you know it she will be off with her own friends,doing her own thing.

as i like to say my house is always clean but rarely tidy.