To think that people that genuinely believe in this end of the world stuff need to get a grip.

[wannaBe]

Ultimately, if the world is going to end then you'll be dead so you won't know about it anyway.

But in the meantime:

There are genuine natural disasters happening to people right now, and some will lose their lives, some have lost family and friends, some have lost their homes and their livelyhoods, and their lives have been altered for ever.

So to panic about something that has no proven basis other than the ramblings of some nutters on the internet is just a bit pathetic really.

Mugs???? But why would you want a latte or cuppa during the apocolypse????

My lunch prediction came true!!!

So those other predictions I made about dinner the end of the world are also going to happen!

Run, everybody! Save yourselves!

I think it is an arrogant trait in human beings to think that we know enough about the universe that these things may all be a dud. I do not believe in any predictions, but that doesn't mean that I or anyone else know how the world is going to end. We may find out a week before it is going to happen, with the technology we have now it is possible. Or who knows, one of these predictions may well be spot on. The balance of things is too unpredictable, thats why some people choose to believe in these things in the first place, it gives them some sense of control over what may otherwise seem like an existence that can be so easily wiped out in such a huge and endless universe. It is just human beings trying to hold on to a sense of order in an otherwise chaotic existence. That is the basis of all human civilisation, so I wouldn't judge people who believe in these things too harshly.

LDNmummy but what does believing in this stuff actually achieve other than anxiety? Believing a prediction that the world will end in 2012 won't give you control - you won't be able to stop it happening or prevent yourself from dying when it does, and actually there is no way of knowing whether it will actually happen until it does. So all the panic and anxiety over it achieves absolutely nothing.

And besides the end of the world has been predicted before and that hasn't come true, so why would there be any more reason to believe this will?

wel if im not on here on 2012 been nice knowing ya all

Well I for one would like to see all your faces when the Earth dissipates and melts into a black hole...that'll learn you!! YABU

and if it does end drink loads of well all be that drunk we wont know

YANBU, and I agree with the poster who said we've all become too accustomed to our cushty lives that we're actively looking for confirmation of the end of the world etc etc.. my grandparents and my dad lived through the Blitz in London, my dad spent 10 months sleeping in tube stations and bomb shelters when he was 5 years old. Every night they didn't know if they would live to see morning. We have no idea how shit things can actually get.

YANBU

My niece recently got very upset after hearing all the Mayan calendar drivel from one of her friends at school. It's one thing for adults to scare themselves witless on no evidence whatsoever, quite another to expose children to it. :(

Oh dear- are we absolutely certain about the date?

That's going to mess up SIL's birthday plans...

no no ilove we'll all be having a out of our end of world mugs.

YANBU. My Ex had this thing about a floodwave destroying the world in 2012, and kept telling us to move to higher ground- my response was I would move lower, so it ends quicker- not that I believe his c*. Used to drive me up a tree!

It's all bollocks anyway. Mayan culture just had really long calendars. A new one starts the next day.

Just like the world doesn't end every December 31st before you put up the new kitchen calendar for January.

And for good measure:

wannabe if you think I'm pathetic you should of just told me out right, you didn't need to start a thread about it

Well said Alt :)

but we really ARE all going to die.

Just that it's more likely to be when we're old and grey than in a cataclysmic world-ending event.

Bloody hell that link is quite something.

The world in the last year is proven to be unstable, unfortunately many thousand of people are being killed, and currently being killed as we speak.

• last year

• last few thousand years

PMSL at that link.

'Jesus showed me numbers 22 and 23...'

'Warren Buffet goes to New Delhi, where they started building VIP nuclear bunkers in 2003'...therefore a nuclear war is coming

FGS.

I can only comment in this lifetime we are in

Of course.

But there's nothing going on now that hasn't always gone on - hence no reason to suppose that the 'end of the world' is coming.

Yanbu. It seems to be a way of making a disaster on the other side of the planet all about the person saying it. It's a bit "me, me, me".