to think the free milk in nursery/school should be Organic?

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And full fat. We have semi skimmed???

I think they should do an alternative, such as lacto free or soya milk.

My DS2 has never had free milk as I have to provide it all with his intollerances. At nursery this isnt so bad, but not looking forward to school and him being the only one not having milk.

Where do 1 year olds get free milk?

DS1 is in reception. We pay £1 a week at school for milk and fruit every day. It's full fat milk but not organic, that's fine by me.

Your expectations are unrealisitc and YABU.

Morloth I was wondering this (in feeding thread) can you explain? DS is 12 months. Thank-you!

IwishIwasmoreorganised I'm not sure if its free for the 1 year olds?? But either way, they are given semi

afaik all under 5's are entitled to free milk.
we got ds1's free when he was in reception, til he turned 5 in the february after

The total annual cost of the milk was £50million (mid 2010 figure).

Food inflation will already have pushed this up.

Poppins2: how much would an upgrade to this cost? Probably a few million. From which part of the DoH budget would you take a countervailing saving?

Which bit trying? The needing milk at all? Or the less fat=more sugar?

From what I have read humans don't actually need to drink milk other than human milk as babies, you can get everything in a glass of milk from other places, but milk is an easy way of getting that into them. But you don't need dairy products to be healthy.

The fat sugar thing is not rocket science. If you have 100mls of milk, say 8% is fat and you take out 6% of the fat but increase the quantity to compensate your 100mls is now going to be made up of the other stuff in milk that isn't fat, i.e. lactose.

Also double cream tastes a hell of a lot better than skim milk! So if I am going to have it, I am going to enjoy it.

This is where it comes from.

Organic milk allegedly offers better animal welfare standards to the cows who are bred mercilessly in order to provide the nursery with milk. If this is the case YANBU to call for organic milk to be provided.

Personally I would prefer to cut out the exploitation and cruelty of cows altogether and for public funds not to be spent on the provision of milk unless it's dairy free.

:)

See this link for info - under ones can be claimed for, and also organic milk can be claimed for.

Each child under 5 in a day care setting (including CMs) can get 189ml of free milk a day. The setting sorts out the claim..

meditrina Oh I wouldn't take it from the DOH budget.....I would take it from the bankers bonus's.

The needing milk at all part Morloth but thanks for answering!

thisisyesterday what happened as the class turned 5 at different times??

As your child turns 5 you get invoiced. It's not done by the school themselves at our school. Coolmilk deals with the money and then supply the school.

YABU. I do think full fat would be better though.

you had to order it through a company called cool milk. they just start charging you once your child turns 5

ahhhh ok thanks, I was imagining a poor teacher having to say sorry x but your 5 now!

There's plenty wrong with the regular stuff.

Organic and full fat.

"Orgainc because infants raised on organic dairy products are a third less likely to suffer from allergies in the first two years of life. Organic milk has 71 per cent more Omega 3 than conventional milk because of the cows' clover-rich natural diet. Organic milk doesn't contain any pesticides, added hormones or antibiotics."
Tryingtobe have you got a reference for this? I suspect that there may be rather a lot of confounding features in the lifestyle of parents who choose organic to be able to say for certain that it is the milk. Besides, one third less is a hanging comparison. One third less than what? It means nothing without the other half of the claim.

Morloth I've just spent ten minutes examining the two cartons of milk in our fridge. There is 0.3g/100ml more sugar in SS compared to FF, but there is also 0.2g/100ml more protein, with 1.7 vs 3.4g of fat. Fair enough you prefer the flavour, but I think that as the fat is skimmed off, you are removing solids rather than increasing the sugars IYSWIM. Not sure I've explained that very clearly. And no, the calorific content between the two wan't much different - 50 vs 65 per 100ml.

I think I should go to bed now!

PlasticLentilWeaver Here yo go:

Study author Dr Machteld Huber said: "There was a clear relationship between organic dairy use and less eczema."The difference was significant but only for children exclusively eating organic dairy products."

Also see:
Dr Huber, of the Louis Bolk Institute
Professor Carlo Leifert, at Newcastle University.

Free milk has just been withdrawn in our schools, for nursery and reception, so YABU. We don't get any milk at all. And may I add a tad precious.......

I've used a free milk delivery service for the preschoolers in my Childminding setting. We had organic. The choice was there for me to decide, as the proprietor of my setting. I can't imagine that it would be anyones choice other than the person placing the order.

Seven Reasons your Kids Should Drink Organic Milk

Frequently Asked Questions About rBGH

Just a couple. Its not always about what goes into your body, but the overall impact, which most seem to be completely oblivious to when discussing why you should buy organic foods. Because there is no definitive knowledge yet, only minor testing and studies where it is indicated that organic IS the better choice, just based on that, is why I buy organic milk. And you cannot trust government organizations who are in cohorts with companies like Monsanto. Watch Food Inc , which is remedial and entertaining enough documentary not to be boring or cliche and get back to me about how it changed your mind.

That's what I was saying Lentil if you remove something but keep the same quantity you are going to end up with more of whatever else it is made up of, i.e. lactose and protein and water.

I like fat, I feel and look a million times better when I eat plenty of fat and not much sugar.

I would rather have a dash of double cream at 48% fat than a cup of semi-skimmed at 2%, might as well have a glass of water IMO.

We don't do much dairy here cause it creeps me out a bit, some cream and some nice cheese as a special treat sometimes but the DSs don't seem to have suffered for not regularly drinking milk.

Haha wow ur complaining about something for free? If you want full fat organic buy it yourself and give it to school. We pay 50p a week for toast and milk and i supply my own bread as ds is on gluten free diet. And still pay the full 50p a week for milk... Because... 50p a week is cheap... I don't really care what type of milk it is.

If he was on lacto-free (which he was for a bit) I would expect to supply that myself as well so if you want organic, supply it yourself