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to feel that sone friendships are an asset exchange? (warning long)

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flumpmouse · 23/02/2011 10:50

Let me explain.

I have been watching Mad Dogs in which old friends are invited to a Spanish villa by their rich friend. The rich friend is a villain but that is by the by to the thrust of my thread. This rich friend lords it over them and says snide things to each of them in turn about how they haven't got on in life, they put up with this for the sake of their free luxury holiday.

My experience is as follows.
When I was about 18 I had had a really lovely day out with a close school friend whom I had known for 5 years (all the world at that age), we had an absolute blast that day and then she asked me if I would like to go with her to her family's holiday home over the summer holidays. Yes of course, I said that would be wonderful. I can?t tell you how excited I was by that invitation to spend even more time with my best friend was going to be amazing and I hadn't had a holiday for years it was especially exciting.

We returned to her home and she said to her parents how she had asked me. Her father simply said to her in front of me "You really need to invite your other friend X instead as you are going to her family's holiday home in Italy?
I was stunned, mortified and humiliated. My friend was like "oh dad!"
Nothing else was said. It was left up to me to say to her later that I had best not come then - which was me just politely clarifying that I had been explicitly dropped as I didn?t have a holiday or holiday home to exchange with her.

From that point on our friendship was pretty much over as we drifted apart anyway. The main factor in the friendship frosting over though was my utter disbelief at what had been said.

20 years later and I am still aghast at the embarrassment of it all and yet I do now feel I have come to some kind of understanding about what some friendships mean to some people.

I have seen similar things happen to other people.
A work colleagues parents had a very exclusive property on a Caribbean island. In the days before facebook - emails and mobiles this girl would get endless calls at work from "friends" about the property. Everyone wanted a free holiday and she was obviously very used to it and offered people mates rates instead.

Another work colleague went away to Bermuda to visit a friend. Turned out they weren't really friends and didn?t have a good time my work colleague had imposed herself on someone who had a holiday home there, cultivated the friendship for the explicit intention of having a free holiday.

A friend puts up with a dreadful sniping sister as the sister has a holiday home in France and they like to go there for a holiday. Same friend keeps a certain friend very close as they use her UK seafront cottage.

A friend recently told me about her school pals get together, they go to spain to one of the groups step fathers luxury villa, except one of their group has not been invited as she is "poor" and cant afford the fun they plan to have and cant reciprocate.

Dear me. Is this what it boils down to?

Deep down I still have a childish expectation of a friendship. I expect fun times, I expect understanding and support. I expect a meeting of minds and humour.

What I have discovered and especially during the transition to SAHM is some people don't want you for you, they are looking for an asset friendship - a friendship that offers them a clear commodity in return.
Usually its just a matching of childrens ages, but what I am experiencing is you are judged and if you are not matching in income, house size, holidays etc the friendship is dumped.

I just feel that the trump card in this type of toxic friendship is a holiday home.

Don't get me wrong, there are some real gems of friends that don't judge you, are there for you even when circumstances don't match up anymore as things change over the years - but these are rare and if you have them, keep them close.
Love to hear your stories and thoughts.

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EldritchCleavage · 23/02/2011 11:31

What I have discovered and especially during the transition to SAHM is some people don't want you for you, they are looking for an asset friendship - a friendship that offers them a clear commodity in return.

Yes, but in my experience such people are (i) a minority; and (ii) easy to spot and avoid.

One colleague who has a holiday home has banned all stays after people used to turn up, often without notice, and expect to be royally entertained. The true friends help, share, and reciprocate naturally because they want to spend time with you, not out of calculation.

I have a relative who has always been a high-flier but who got a significantly more important and high-profile job about 2 years ago. He and another friend who had a similar elevation at the same time have both noticed the extent to which they are blatantly courted by people who could not be bothered before. My relative and his wife get around it by refusing a lot of invitations, and entertaining at home only for people they really like. And sniggering.

kodokan · 23/02/2011 12:18

I couldn't care less about income, holiday homes, etc, but I do admit to a clear preference to friends with matching-aged children if poss.

Mine are 11 and 7. I have a very good friend with 7 and 5 yr olds, which works ok because the genders match, hers are especially mature kids and the older one buddies up with my DS over a Lego fetish.

I recently made a new friend, an English-speaking mum who moved into our Swiss village. She's incredibly good fun and we have a very similar wavelength. But she has kids of 6, 4 and 1; regardless of how much we like each other, the logistics are complicated. We fit in as many daytime coffees as we can - working around our differing pick-up/drop-off/baby amusing schedules - but forget evenings, and most other activities are a wash out with those ages compared to the things my kids want to do.

I would love to find a friend with similar-aged kids to mine. We could all meet up for BBQs, go hiking and skiing, sit outside the local bar and send the kids off en masse to the nearby playground, etc. Friendships are just easier with all the kids at the same stage. I've spent 10 yrs doing 'little kid' restricted activities - coffee, playbarns, petting farms, generally just hanging around watching the kids - and am really ready for some friendships based around more adult activities.

I don't think that means the friendship would be any less real or just one of convenience - it's just practical.

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