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M44 · 16/02/2011 19:59

dh has a new job that is supposed to be family friendly, better working hours, can work from home if needed etc...
within this job I accept there will be corporate entertaining.......but would you be a little (!) dusgruntled if your husband turned up vomitingly drunk with no prior warning in the middle of bedtime for younger ones?
WOuld you be fed up if the hours are at least 4 hours longer each day....so he doesn't generally see the little ones day to day any more.
He doesn't communicate even by a swift text....to be honest I am fed up with being left to do everything. After his evening meal he doesn't even help load dishwasher anymore or empty the odd bin. I do most of the work and that is ok until he really doesn't lift a finger-generally falls asleep mid conversation.....
You may have guessed- I just need to rant.
I have had to put on hold again any thought of anything for me- have spent the last 8 weeks cancelling things as he is so late home.

GRUMP.

Thank you for listening.....

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Vallhala · 16/02/2011 20:04

I'd be more than fed up. I'd be a ringing a divorce lawyer if my husband came home drunk to my children.

Why put up with it? Why allow him near your children drunk? Why let him set that example to them?

Sorry, but that's not the way I'd ever want to live.

BlueCollie · 16/02/2011 20:08

I'd be packing his bags and I'm pretty easy going about having a social life etc etc but he is taking the piss!!!
He is not showing you any kind of respect and is treating you appallingly.

Seriously I would pack his bags and tell him to get out until he can show you the respect you and your children deserve...may get him thinking about his behaviour.

varyingdegreesofdeafness · 16/02/2011 20:10

Family friendly employers don't necesarily mean that is what they will implement in the offce and what your dh will take on board: i work in a company that promotes itslf as family friendly but the atmosphere is very much party party party.

If your dh has got the dcs to come home to or the pub... one can often be a lot more enticing than the other!

Also, is dh putting in more hours to get familiar with the job, or finding he has to put in the hours just to keep up with things?

although the job is family friendlym, is your dh? I don't mean that in a bad way, just my dh secretly loves coming home when dcs are in bed so he can just relax, is there that with your dh too possibly?

FreudianSlippery · 16/02/2011 20:10

What was DH like before the new job?

FabbyChic · 16/02/2011 20:11

Have you actually talked to him about how unhappy you are with his new job?

Are you just ranting here rather than talking to him properly?

Do you know if it is more stressful? How he is coping in his new job? Have you EVEN asked.

blackeyedsusan · 16/02/2011 20:15

I would be really cross if h turned up drunk. grrr. If it turns into a regular occurance( ie again) I would be thinking that he needs to look for a different job. (or house?)

Does he do anything to help at the weekend? can you have some time off then?

Feel free to rant away.

atswimtwolengths · 16/02/2011 20:31

Surely corporate entertainment doesn't mean drinking until you fall over? Isn't he representing the company during the entertainment, even if it's party time?

Cicatrice · 16/02/2011 20:34

How long has he been in his new job? Are the extra hours to find his feet, or because he has to fit in induction/introducton type meetings with people?

TheSecondComing · 16/02/2011 20:59

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M44 · 16/02/2011 21:19

I always knew when he had a 'do'.
He is normally so lovely and great with the kids-I think he is already feeling embarrassed that he came home like this-it is rare. Yes there will be a certain element of new job syndrome but that doesn't mean drinking like this. Surely in this day and age it is acceptable to be on the drier side!

He will be on extra duty this weekend-my agenda!! I am going to work on Saturday so he has got to be on good form by then. He WILL also be taking at least 2 days in half term......

I am not oging to be so tolerant now. Have tried talking to him but he generally falls asleep mid conversation as he is tired.....but so am I with 4 kids to chase after all day.

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bringbackaqualibra · 16/02/2011 21:24

YANBU. Sounds awful.

pagwatch · 16/02/2011 21:27

My dh does corporate entertaining all the time. Lunches once or twice a week and two or three evening events a month at the very least. I used to organise lunches and events to entertain my clients. I never got hammered. It is work.

He never comes home drunk. Getting pissed at a corporate do is deeply unprofessional. It does happen occasionally but the idea is to present your company in a good light. How is being shit faced achieving that.

Your dh is just getting pissed. He should stop pretending it is anything to do with his career.

PukeyMummy · 16/02/2011 21:38

If the salary for his new job isn't a LOT better than the old one, then you should be making your feelings very clear.

If the salary is higher, some of this stuff does come with the territory. I don't mean the getting pissed, but longer hours.

But given that he's home in time for bath time, it doesn't sound like he is working unreasonably long hours, so the main issue is him getting drunk and not communicating.

Just to put this into context, I'm writing as the wife of my DH who regularly puts in 7am - 9pm hours, almost never home for bath time, does very little around the house, is often away on business trips. But I do make sure he does extra child duty at the weekends. I have a friend whose husband is the same (and does a lot of corporate entertaining with it), but you (more-or-less) suck it up for a higher salary, which can help to pay for things like a cleaner, childcare, etc. DH at least gives me an idea of roughly when he'll be home, public transport permitting. And doesn't come home pissed very often (tends to save that for when he's away on business).

However, it doesn't sound like this is the issue for you. And you have four kids, so you need his help!

Sorry, don't know what else to say.

M44 · 17/02/2011 08:01

The only reason he was home midst bathtime was because the 'do' was more local plus they had been at it since lunch.
Generally leaves 7.15 ish and gets back 8pm after the 2 younger ones are in bed.
We are all adjusting to new job/routines etc...but it was the no communication that bothers me. Just a text would have been sufficient....

He IS very remorseful this morning and realises how bad it was.

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kreecherlivesupstairs · 17/02/2011 08:20

I wouldn't ask for a text. I would want a quick phone call.
He seems to work similar hours to my DH (a teacher), but mine doesn't have corperate events so no chance to have a drink.
I think you'll have to suck a lot of this up TBH. I understand that umemployment is on the rise in the UK so he may not be able to get another job.

pagwatch · 17/02/2011 09:15

The hours you have to suck up - dh is 6.30/7.00 am until 7.30/8.30 everyday.

But getting pissed at work is entirely his choice and he needs to stop it.

Dh always rings me by 6.00pm to tell me if he will be home at normal time (for supper at 8.30) or 'late' which means I eat and go to bed as he will be nearer midnight.

StayingDavidTennantsGirl · 17/02/2011 09:36

Your dh sounds a bit like mine, M44. When the dc were little, we lived in Essex and he commuted to London, and worked long hours, and was often much later home than he said he would be. I hated it at the time, more because of the unpredictability of it, and how difficult that made it to plan things like meals, than because I resented doing the childcare etc.

If I knew he was going to be late home, then I knew I'd be doing bedtime on my own, and that was OK - but if he'd said he'd be home and do bedtime, then I'd subconsciously be looking forward to the help, so if he didn't turn up, it was a let-down. Plus I had to deal with sad boys asking when daddy was going to be home.

It also made meal planning difficult, and he liked me to eat with him (and I liked it too) so I ended up cooking one meal for the dses and one for us later on - sometimes very late. As I got better organised, I did try to make meals that we could all eat, but that could be dished up at different times - ie two shepherds pies, or bolognese/chilli etc, which made life easier.

He did come home drunk sometimes, too - not regularly or often, which would have been a show-stopper for me, but occasionally - and I really hated that, so I can understand how cross and upset you were when your dh did this last night.

One thing that worries me a little is the fact that he got so drunk whilst doing corporate entertaining - is that normal for the company (ie do lots of people get pissed at corporate events) or might there be managerial disapproval of him getting drunk? It might be worth asking him. Dh's work was completely dry, so he only ever got pissed if he went for a drink after work with colleagues, so I don't know what the corporate culture on this is.

I wouldn't join the 'pack his bags, kick him out' people, unless this is regular and frequent behaviour (the drunkenness). However, it would be perfectly reasonable for you to talk to him about a few ground-rules - particularly that he phones or texts you if he is coming home late, so that you can plan your evening - and you could say that you would obviously do the same, if you were out and he were at home with the dc.

My dses did see dh drunk (very occasionally, and no longer, as he has given up alchohol altogether for the past 5 years), and I don't think it did them any harm - on the contrary, I think it showed them how stupid you look when pissed. Obviously, I wouldn't be saying this if he had been an aggressive drunk or abusive.

I would say that, in my experience, things do improve. Now dh's hours are much better (plus his commute is much shorter) - but ironically, as the boys are teenagers now, childcare is much easier too, so I don't need the help as much as I did when they were little. I suspect that this is often the case, because early on in someone's career they need and want to appear keen and willing, and so end up staying late more often, whereas later on, you can bring more work home, and also you have more people who you can pass work on to (young eager people) so you can come home.

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