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/WWYD. Someone close to me may be in an emotionally abusive relationship.

19 replies

duchesse · 08/02/2011 23:02

A close family member with four very young children has a mercurial and unpredictable husband; he expects everything in the family to be done his way; he makes decisions about what they're doing and repeatedly changes his mind at a moment's notice; he has dragged her pretty much against her will to a tropical country where he refuses to allow any of the family to use modern medicine including antibiotics to the extent that she fears for the children if they so much as graze their knee; he promises help around the house and rarely delivers; it seems he is out shagging other women back in their tropical idyll. If he feels he is not getting his own way in any matter he takes to his bed for ten days at a time and requires nursing, for want of a better word.

My relative has changed so much in the last few years, has lost her trust in her extended family and has become very hardened and judgmental. Quite a lot of this is probably due to tiredness tbh, but there is no respite in sight for her.

At what point does living with a person with mental illness become too much in your opinion? Do you think it's an individual decision about when "love and honour, in sickness and in health" becomes too much?

I feel that she is like a lobster put into cold water and had the heat gradually turned up over the years until she is now in utterly different water and has not noticed.

My question: what would you do? Should I just sit back and wait? I have tried to make clear that I am there for her no matter what but she has become very difficult to talk to about anything.

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LaWeaselMys · 08/02/2011 23:11

How horrible.

I haven't got any advice really. I was going to come on and say that after I found out a friend's bf who I hadn't really liked but hadn't been able to put together and major complaints about was an abusive shit - I have resolved to (and have) just tell friends/family if I don't like what is going on with their partner.

But it sounds like it is way too late for that. Maybe you could suggest a holiday? She could defrost at yours with the kids and maybe get to see a bit of 'normal' life and compare?

Chil1234 · 09/02/2011 09:15

I think all you can do is offer support. Telephone or e-mail regularly. Say you're worried about her and the children. Ask if things are OK. She may have got used to the situation but almost certainly does know that his behaviour is unacceptable. If she chooses to stay that is ultimately her call and, whether we like it or not, some people are prepared to put up with anything just to have 'a man'.

duchesse · 09/02/2011 09:17

Trouble is I think he monitors her emails. Also when I skype he always seems to be there. I don't want to make things worse for her. His own father killed himself and I think that's always in the background as a vague threat.

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Al1son · 09/02/2011 09:32

Keep Skyping until you find a time when he's not there. There must be one if he's out shagging other women. Then start but working out ways that you can communicate freely. Take it one step at a time and accept that it may take years before she sees that she needs to walk away.

Just finding a way to let her know that you've sussed what's going on may mean a lot to her.

Shakirasma · 09/02/2011 09:42

All you can do is keep telling her you love her and will always be there for her.

She can't escape this relationship until she is ready, pressure or criticism of him may have the adverse effect and make her more isolated from you.

The most important thing is for her to know she has somewhere to go when she is ready to make a break for it.

Slugontoast · 09/02/2011 09:46

Also, him being such a nasty controlling arse, she may have no money for flights home for her and 4 children.

You may have to save some money, to help her leave, when the time comes.

duchesse · 09/02/2011 09:54

He gives her an allowance so unless she's being clever and salting some away she would not have the money for flights. Nor at the moment has she expressed any desire to leave him. I am convinced that even if I found the several thousand required to fetch them back she would probably go back to him quite quickly afterwards and I frankly can't afford to waste that much money.

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Slugontoast · 09/02/2011 10:18

Fair enough!

monkeyflippers · 09/02/2011 11:07

What a horrible situation. It's sounds like it has changed her quite a bit.

I don't know what you can do really. The will to leave has to come from her. I guess all you can do is confirm to her that she doesn't have to put up with this and that it is not ok and that you will be there for her.

That's not much help is it?! Sorry!

What country is it?

duchesse · 09/02/2011 11:40

Thailand.

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kreecherlivesupstairs · 09/02/2011 11:54

Where in Thailand are they? Certainly Bangkok has organisations for women who are either in abusive relationships or have experienced DV.
As far as the antibiotics go, I know that you can buy them over the counter (not ideal).
What nationality is the partner? If he is Thai, it is considered acceptable to use prostitutes rather than taking a minor wife.
Could you go and visit her?

wishingchair · 09/02/2011 11:56

Does he work out there?

duchesse · 09/02/2011 13:08

He's not Thai but British, and they (co)own their own business out there.

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kreecherlivesupstairs · 09/02/2011 13:11

Where in Thailand? What sort of business? If it is a bar, and IME that's what most farang own, he will have a ready supply of ladies willing to accommodate him.
Would you be able to go and visit them?

duchesse · 09/02/2011 13:16

Don't want to reveal anything that might identify her but it's a school not on the mainland. And he seems to have plenty of contact with small Thai ladies through golf and various things he does.

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kreecherlivesupstairs · 09/02/2011 14:53

I think I know where you are talking about. If I am correct, there should be other ex prat women around who can advise her or help her.
In the same way, if it is the same place that I am thinking, the British Embassy has a consular presence there too.
FWIW, my DH had a colleague from the same place (if indeed it is the same place) and he was a total tool.

lospollos · 09/02/2011 15:07

this sounds like a horrible sit.

it must be agonising, how about ringing her, does he hover in the background too, I read he does with emails.

if hes working , during the day.

I hope for her sake she legs it one day, sounds like a complete waste of oxygen.
hugs for you and your mate.

maltesers · 09/02/2011 15:22

It sounds to me like this poor female needs to get out of her relationship asap. . . . .in fact faster.
Her dp is a total bastard and needs shooting.

duchesse · 10/02/2011 16:25

It's so difficult though to tell what's mental illness and what's just bastardy. I think there's a fair amount of both. It must be very hard for her to sort out what's what and work out where she's going to draw her line. She is so loyal.

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