to have a snigger to myself about this?

[Bogeyface]

Ok so it is my bad angel getting the better of me but still.....

Ex has never paid maintenance voluntarily. He has always been chased by the CSA and it take ages, although thankfully it seems to have speeded up in the last year or so.

They have to try and contact him, he doenst respond. They send him forms, he ignores them, they give him X days to respond to a final warning, no response. This takes anything up to 3 months. This time it took longer as he moved house aswell.

Then they contact Inland Revenue who have to find him on their records, find the employer and pass the details back to CSA, this can take up to 6 weeks, althought this time only took a week so YAY to that!

THEN they have send a deduction from earnings order (DEO) to get the maintenance taken at source from his wages. This, depending on when it is sent and the employers pay roll, can take up to 8 weeks although is usually closer to 4-6 weeks. Then and only then, do I get anything.

Last received a payment 8 months ago, and today I spoke to the CSA who have tracked him down, slapped the DEO onto him and in theory I should get a payment by the end of March. All good....for me.

However as he hasnt paid anything for so long the arrears have mounted up and the amount that they are demanding is rather high and I just know he will be going NUTS when he finds out. I know that they can only take up ro 40% of his wages, so it isnt definete that they will take it, but 40% of his after tax earnings is a hell of alot. But do I feel sorry for him? No I fucking dont.

did I laugh my ass off when I found out? Yes I did! The only reason it is that high is becasue he didnt pay when it was due, so its his own fault! If he didnt want a massive amount being taken from him then he should have kept up with it.

AIBU for feeling just a wee bit happy that he will finally get what he deserves?!

oh yes... i am sniggering along with you

Nope, YANBU at all.

Oh, to be a fly on the wall when he finds out.

YANBU. I don't understand why he thinks he will get away with it whne you keep doing this and eventually getting your money.

Can they make a DEO permanent so that the payments are always made that way. Or is it that he is moving jobs so that doesn't work.

Also surprised he is not embarassed that his payroll dept. know he doesn't pay for his DC.

Of course YANBU. I don't have any experience of this luckily, but your ex sounds like a total twunt.

Sorry, I didnt say did I?

He changes jobs fairly frequently, well once every 18 months or so which when you take out the time from the last payment to when they find him and get the DEO in place, it means very few payments before he moves again. He always goes to another job, so they do find him eventually.

And I am surprised that he isnt mortified that HR/Payroll know how crap he is! And this at every place he works too, shame they cant put "PS, the CSA will be in touch about his wages soon" on his references pmsl :o:o

Yes, it sohuld be added to his references for his HR dept. Just to help them out of course

I've been through the same,when the csa finally caught up with him they ordered a DEO,great thought we...

...he decided to quit his job after 6 months of paying out.

We had 6 months of payment out of nearly 16 years.

I cannot be arsed with the CSA anymore.

Oh I know Thingumy, he did that too for a few years until his wife got PG and he had no choice but to go to work. Since then it has been him moving jobs that has been the problem, not the CSA. They couldnt take money off him if they couldnt prove he had any.

I have to say that the CSA have been great. If he is working then they will find him and if he isnt then they will keep an eye on him until he is.

Bogeyface - you are being completely unreasonable .....

......not to be rolling round on the floor laughing your arse off - never mind just sniggering!!

I hope you and your dc get some of what you deserve from this muppet.

I hate the CSA. I think they are the most incompetent, useless bunch of lying arseholes I've ever encountered but good on them for getting it right for you. YANBU and I hope he cries.

I just hope he sees the funny side! Seriously, tho I hope he doesn't start any trouble for you.

Dont worry meli, he can't.

I would say that to someone else if they had posted this too, but really there is nothing he can do!

I can't understand how moving jobs means that the CSA have to go investigating again, surely if they are paying tax then they can be quickly traced? I realise that if someone is working cash in hand then that's not possible, but if you're in a legit job then it shouldn't be hard.

Ha!

I think we might share an ex.

Nah, just kidding. Inland Revenue still need to pass on his details but there's a DOE order in place so I'm hoping to see some pennies soon.

Laughing out loud that the twat puts on his unlocked facebook page that he has a new job! I only check it to see if/when he's working (been on JSA for ages) so I can ring up the CSA and tell them!

When the csa finally tracked down my ex they assessed his payments at £16 per week with £2000 arrears to be paid off at £4 per week i never got the arrears!
When my daughter was 15 she got in touch with him and he told her about his up coming dream wedding and honeymoon and the renovations on the house which included under floor heating.
He was never reassessed in the 11 years he paid and when my daughter left education i got a letter saying he had overpaid by £600 and i needed to pay it back.
Funnily enough i didn't bother but have to say the csa was rubbish then and doesn't seem any better now.
Sounds to me that he's got what he deserves laugh all you want.

MisQue - They dont investigate as such, but they do have to trace him through IR to find out where he is working before they can put the DEO on him through that new employer. But they have to give him a chance to give the info voluntarily first which is what takes the time when he ignores them. Also, it can take a while for them to appear with IR when they start a new job, so that can cause a delay too. Its a PITA that it takes so long but it does work eventually. According to the CSA, the IR are alot quicker at passing the info now than they used to be so thats good atleast.

Oooh good one Moongirl! It goes to prove that they really are stupid!

I'd enjoy this a LOT. Shame you can't see him look at his payslip hehe.

It amazes me that some "parents" can sleep at night knowing they are avoiding taking care of their children. They should be ashamed.

I do wish I could be a fly on the wall when he finds out, although the picture in my head has got me through a rather shitty day :o

I did take some grim satisfaction in knowing that DD's dad would probably be having a hard time with maintenance coming direct from his wage. I hope that he was embarrassed at work when the DEO went on his wages too.

I was given the option of sorting the payment out with him, which I declined, unreliable sod saw his daughter a handful of times her whole life, and never took advantage of me telling him to use the money meant for her maintenace to catch a train to come see her every other week, why would he suddenly be reliable paying her maintenance? I'd rather have it sorted from the start, straight out his wages before he touches it, and let that be a lesson to him that there's only so long I'll bend over backwards to try and encourage a relationship between them.

YANBU. Ha ha fucking ha to him.

Ooh YANBU at all.

I hate that so many people get away with not paying. DH always paid CSA and they MAJORLY screwed up calculations, resulting in debts that were completely undeserved

It really upsets me that DH was paying over the odds while other complete tossers get away scot free

Nice to see some justice!

Am in the same situation, in fact I could have written your post, my ex should have received a letter with exactly that information in in the last few days and I am karma or what?

I shall dance a little jig if the CSA actually get any money this time I would so like to have been a fly on the wall when that letter hit the mat....

Magpie, you and I should have a "maintenance day" party!

You'll have to have my drink for me though as I am currently pg :o