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To not allow dss to go to a party for terrible behaviour

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ThePosieParker · 06/02/2011 13:14

Back story:

DS1&2 argue a lot, they are 14 months apart.
DS2 has suffered lots of hits and now is very 'hitty'.
They both provoke eachother, DS1 is much bigger and so serves up punishing blows.
I accept that children can be physical but this is never condoned and often punished.

Today....
boys looking for shoes, DS2s school shoes to avoid rushing tonight/tomorrow am.
DS1 stops looking, ds2 calls him a 'fat lazy idiot'...DS1 whacks DS2 a number of times, DS2 comes down stairs loudly crying the whole way (I have sinusitis, so this hurts a lot)
DS1 is called and talked to, very loudly by me, banned from all screens...he calls me a 'stupid woman', he gets a slapped hand (slight tap).
Then he tells me to bugger off and calls me a stupid fat idiot woman...........I chase him up the stairs and slap his other hand hard.
DS2 and DS1 can be heard calling me names from the top of the house, on purpose in the stairs so that I can hear and then ds2 tells dd (4) that he's going to push her down the stairs, so we'll get an ambulance again. She's very frightened and so he gets a slap on the hand too.

They had no warning about smacks, it's very very rare that they get them, but I am feeling unwell and now rather defeated. I keep thinking about when they're teens and bigger than me and thinking about the names they'll be calling me then. I do, however, feel I failed as I grew up in a proper violent household, lots of red midst and beatings.

DH is away on business and currently in the air.

12-1.30 DS1 is doing a course, the other side of the city and DS2's friend from his old school, still his best friend(ish) is having a party. A cricket party where all boys will have whites as part of the private school they go to, DSs will be wearing tracksuits.

AIBU to stop them going? In a bid to gather some respect and control or is that lost now I've smacked them?

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ThePosieParker · 06/02/2011 15:14

WE're all going to watch 'Human Planet' or something!

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Onetoomanycornettos · 06/02/2011 15:16

Posie, if they are not normally like this, then I wouldn't worry, you are tired, ill, dad's away and you have three little ones on your hands. The decision has been made now, and they will remember you mean business.

FWIW, I am quite off rewards and punishments at the moment, as mine started asking what the reward was for doing normal things and if they anticipated a punishment, either offering something up or steeling themselves so they didn't care about losing a trip out/lack of computer time or whatever. I realised that it wasn't really helping them learn that they need to do some things just BECAUSE; you don't not threaten your sister becasue you will get punished, but because it's nasty and unkind! So, I sympathise with trying to work this out.

warthog · 06/02/2011 18:52

i hope you apologised profusely to whoever's party it was.

ChaoticAngelofAnarchy · 06/02/2011 19:05

Quite frankly if I got a phone call to say someone's dc wasn't coming because of their behaviour I wouldn't be pissed off. I'd recognise the fact that the dc had been badly behaved and this was how their parents had chosen to discipline them.

bubblewrapped · 06/02/2011 19:10

I agree with Chaotic. So long as the parent is informed that they arent attending, then that is the important thing.

As for smacking their hands? How old are they?

It would have been a wallop on the arse from me I'm afraid.

ThePosieParker · 06/02/2011 19:13

They are nearly nine and eight in May.

I apologised and explained that as DS2's asthma was really bad (which it is) and DH was away I couldn't bring either child. I didn't know that my friend would understand.

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frazzle26 · 06/02/2011 22:16

I cancelled my son's OWN birthday party last year due to his bad behaviour so you are definitely not being unreasonable. It broke my heart doing it but he had being naughty for several weeks but the straw that broke the camels back was when he threw a rock at a boys head causing bleeding. I think that you have to carry out threats otherwise that's all they are.

When my son is naughty, I try to take a second or two before threatening him with something because if i say something that I would never carry out then it's just silly and he'll think he can get away with whatever he was doing next time.

Alouiseg · 06/02/2011 22:32

I think you made a point earlier about how you deal with them when they are bigger children regarding the slapped hand. I'd stop the hand smacking now because a teenage boy with hormones coursing through his body won't respond to a smacked anything and will feel that it's perfectly acceptable to lash out himself.

When my 2, who have a very similar age gap, used to kick off I used to hold both of their hands in my hands (nicely but firmly) and look directly into their faces. I then had all their attention and it still works now they're moody teenagers.

I wouldn't have let them go to the party either and I think that making them do some tidying is spot on.

Opinionatedfreak · 07/02/2011 01:58

I think you have missed a trick.

You should have 'outed' them to their friends as boys who were so badly behaved that they didn't get to go to the party.

There is nothing like a bit of peer pressure for making this age group conform.

Any Mum who didn't understand that you were taking drastic parental action probably isn't worth being friends with.

MadamDeathstare · 07/02/2011 04:03

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cory · 07/02/2011 08:43

If ds' best friend was suddenly not allowed to come to his party as a disciplinary measure, then I might understand, but ds would be reduced to tears and feel his day had been spoiled. I think parents should use disciplinary measures that do not involve other children.

Mobly · 07/02/2011 08:59

I think the punishment is harsh but at their ages maybe they need that. I hope it works for you op.

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