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Boasting/oneupmanship

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portaloo · 05/02/2011 20:36

I know this has probably been done to death, but couldn't find what I was looking for in search.

You know when some people behave in a way that appears so natural to them, ie, they don't bat an eyelid at the time, well that makes me wonder if IABU or not.

I have a friend, who I don't see so much of now, because of her constant boasting/oneupmanship. She is still on my FB, so still in contact, but only see her about once a fortnight now, and very rarely during day.
She has lots of friends and is always in and out of people's houses so she really cant be that bad can she?

Her whole conversation is made up of:

asking me what I think of her new boots/coat etc
telling me what her b/f is going to buy for her next. (This visit, it's a new car even though boyfriends car is 16 years old, an iphone and a new tv not a huge one like mine though because thats crass Shock)
Her b/f lives at the other end of the blardy country and has promised her many things that she hasn't got, including things she has needed. When he has let her down in the past, she just puts it out of her mind and goes onto the next desired purchase. No one AFAIK mentions it again.
What sale she is going to next, where it is and what she's going to buy for her gorgeous wonderful DC.
Her DC are beautiful, but they are quite blunt and dare I say it...rude. Her youngest DC actually comes to my face and says 'Your DD disgusts me, wipe her face now.' pulls me up on imagined mispronounced words, and goes through my house pointing out 'disgusting' things that make him feel sick. Shock
He doesn't share, and tells DD she is ugly, nasty, and he hates her etc etc. (He is 5, DD is 2)
My friend just sits there laughing at him, and says 'That's my boy, you can see he's my boy can't you?'
I just smile thinly.
She is having a few problems with her DS screaming in teachers faces, and refusing to work in school, as well as saying he is ill whenever he wants to go home (friend told them he was not ill, just wanted to come home).

I just don't know why we cant be friends and support each other.

Same friend has taken the piss out of my clothes in front of another friend, Friend A, who hadn't even noticed what I was wearing until then, but then started laughing, making me feel really self conscious. I didn't have anything wacky on, just a pair of blue trousers. Hmm
Friend does tell other people things about me, but I admit, I didn't specifically say at the time that I didn't want my relationship breakdown in all it's finest detail broadcast to friend A.
I do feel I cant trust her to keep things to herself, so I dont tell her much anymore, and we could kind of rub along and be friends, and see each other once a fortnight if she weren't so damn competitive. If I ever mention I have bought anything, she sneers at it, has already told me infront of Friend A again, that my frontroom is awful, that I should do XXX and XXX to change it.

It has got better since I distanced myself from her, but why oh why oh why does this friend pour scorn on other people's choice of home/furnishings/clothes/cars/lives, believing hers is superior. I wouldn't insult someone else's home by pointing out all I didn't like about it, in the name of 'telling the truth'.

Is there a point where telling the truth turns into being rude and pointless?

Friend just says she is being honest, and is proud of this fact.

If I was honest, I'd really upset her, and fall out with her.

Why do people do this??

One more thing, her DS has been smoking for a year and she told me about this last time I saw her, she is buying his cigarettes for him. I just said 'Oh, I didn't know he smoked, how long has he been smoking for?'
She replied 'A year, and anyway, when did you start smoking? I'll bet you were younger than my DS, so don't think of being a hypocrite. You can't say it's wrong if you did it yourself blah blah blah' I told her that I was not underage, didn't get my mum to buy my cigs for me, and would be teaching my DC not to make the same mistakes as I had, and if that makes me a hypocrite, then so bloody be it.'
I'm not saying I will be any more successful than friend, but she seems proud that her DS smokes. Shock She was grinning like a cheshire cat whilst telling me. Hmm

Other than that, when I have been down/depressed, friend has been there, so would rather not fall out with her.

Any idea's on how to handle this?
AIBU to think most people don't behave like this? I seem to be the only one of our friends who thinks like this, another reason for believing it is just me being oversensitive. I have been there when friend has ripped into another friends clothes etc, and although they look embarrassed, they just laugh it off, and remain friends. Is it just me who can't seem to treat it like water off a ducks back?
I can't imagine there's many people who would like to be gossiped about behind their backs, but maybe they think Friend only does that to others, not them. Hmm

Can anyone make sense of this type of behaviour? Where am I going wrong for her to speak to me like she does?

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cerealqueen · 05/02/2011 22:52

Yep, dump her. And when she has been a friend when you have been down and depressed its because some people like to see people in that state, its called oneupmanship. Seeing you in a bad way makes her feel better for whatever reason.

plupervert · 05/02/2011 22:57

In that case, you need an alliance: one person stands up to her, and the "allies" arrange to be the ones to whom this cow bitches. The allies have a go in their turn, and dent the bitch's confidence.

I can't believe gossip hasn't started about her and her bitchiness yet. It surely is the most natural thing in the world to complain to a friend that someone has been nasty to you. It's really quite sad that you have turned to us strangers for comfort. Not that we don't want you, but surely...

"Evil flourishes when good men do nothing."

CrosswordAddict · 05/02/2011 22:58

If you stay around this "friend" long enough you might become just like her. "Birds of a feather flock together" as they say. Well, you seem much nicer than her IMHO so just give her the elbow and see if you can get along better without her. Her DS seems a bad influence on your child too.

FunnysInTheGarden · 05/02/2011 23:01

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bupcakesandcunting · 05/02/2011 23:14
kittybuttoon · 05/02/2011 23:16

Portaloo Thank goodness you are going to give her the E. The business with the posters sounds just plain spiteful.

Good luck and carry on dodging her!

kittybuttoon · 05/02/2011 23:20

PS: Bet you any money that her boyfriend is someone else's husband, btw.

'Lives too far away to visit often' Hmm my arse.

portaloo · 05/02/2011 23:32

kittybuttoon I wouldn't be surprised. Don't want to give too much detail on here. Suffice to say that he has cheated on every previous g/f, and was actually with another woman when friend met him. He lives at virtually the other end of the country, sees friend and their DC every few weeks, never looks keen to be in photo's etc, but apparently they chat every night.
He has been promising to move back so he can live with friend for more than 6 years, but something always comes up. Friend says she will dump him if he doesn't stick to his promise to move in, but never does. Just advises other friends to dump their partners instead. Grin

FWIW, he has never lived with a woman AFAIK. He has always lived somewhere else, and spent some time at his g/f's, but friend thinks she is different. Hmm

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TryLikingClarity · 06/02/2011 06:33

From reading this all you seem like a lovely person. A bit naive and trusting, but nice.

Your 'friend' reminds me of a teenage bully - using her possessions to dazzle others and being rudely pass remarkable.

The story you said about her bf sounds fishy, but I daresay, if he came back or she got another man you and her other 'friends' would be dropped like stones.

She is a drain on your energy and your happiness. Get rid.

Think about what you'd say to your DD if she were older with a 'friend' like that? I think you'd tell her to run a mile too.

MadamDeathstare · 06/02/2011 23:55

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portaloo · 07/02/2011 21:14

Thanks MadamDeathstare

Your hunches about friend are spot on. I am so grateful for your advice, and everyone else's on here too.

She has previously said I have no sense of humour, and I have found in the past, I have ended up justifying myself to her, then get cross with myself for doing it.

I have tried to be a good friend to her, but when we are on our own, she tends to talk over me or ignore me, unless I have some bad news, then she's happy to listen.
We have had shared msn conversations before as well as chats IRL and friend will think nothing of just completely ignoring whatever I have written, but jump to respond to mutual friend at the same time.

I have also realised that friend cannot laugh at herself at all, but can laugh long and hard at other people.

It's all becoming very clear now, and I don't know why I didn't see it before.

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BerylStreep · 07/02/2011 21:50

Portaloo - you don't need her in your life, she is not adding any value, and she sounds like an insecure bitch.

I had a 'friend' like this, and she was horrid - she thrived in putting me down. I started avoiding her, and she turned into a bit of a stalker for a bit - you need to be prepared for her ire if you try to upset the applecart by changing things (but it will be worth it). My mum told me on no account to have it out with her, as she would try to twist it, and mock me in front of others for my views. This was a good move - I would just breezily say - 'oh, lovely to see you, but I'm just on my way out, must ring you later' etc. Make sure you have lots of good excuses.

I remember your other threads, and I think you have enough to deal with without a complete cow for a 'friend'.

Good luck.

BurnAfterReading · 07/02/2011 21:54

wow...OP is long, I need to go to bed, but posted just so that I could find this tomorrow and have a read on my lunch break..:)

Schnitzel · 07/02/2011 22:17

She doesn't sound like the sharpest tool in the box does she. I'd leave her to it.

BerylStreep · 13/02/2011 08:42

OP - have you had a 'friend' clear-out yet?

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