In thinking people should be jailed for 'playing the race card' more often ??

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It seems to happen a lot and just be accepted and the only purpose it serves is to sweep real issues of racism under the carpet that and ruin the life of the person being accused

Like when my workplace had redundancies, it was a last in first out policy for everyone except for one guy who tried to drag it through the courts claiming discrimination

Hopefully this www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/02/05/driver-jailed-for-falsely-claiming-traffic-warden-racially-abused-him-115875-22899847/ will be a deterrant to anybody thinking of using their race to get their own way.

I agree, he deserved to be jailed, but you do realize this is going to kick off don't you?

agree.

i cannot tell you the number of times i have heard "its cos im black innit" "no it is because i just caught you xyz"

true equality means that race should not be an issue. the fact that we need to behave more "delicately" around certain people for fear of being called a racist is not equality...it is racism.

Yes, I think it's time because being falsely accused of being racist can be very damaging indeed.

Exactly, the damage can be appaling, that poor doctor he accused will have it come up on all his checks, resources are being wasted and ACTUAL issues of racism aren't being tackled, there needs to be a deterrent

Unfortunately a minority do place the race card and it's bloody annoying but they have probably had their fair share (well unfair share) of racism aimed at them.

I was in a bad mood one morning and knocked on all the car windows parked on the zigzags/pavement/yellow lines outside the school and told them how dangerous it was (I have moments like that where I feel the urge and act on it). Most them were shocked, one told me to fuck off (which didn't surprise me) and one said "It's because I'm brown, isn't it?"

It's the same for people wrongly accused of rape or child abuse.

My BIL runs a football coaching school for under 18s (boys and girls) they have a self imposed rule that a coach is never alone with a child. They always coach in pairs. They live in a small town, and all would take would be for a child to say that he had touched them, and his life would be ruined.

Sad but true.

definately with false rape accusations, there is a guy where my brother works who is appalling, always late, crap at his job, surly, he should have been gone long ago yet they daren't for fear of being hauled through the courts, sad but true.

Only if the same applies to people who make false accusations that [person who is a minority] attacked them. I've seen a lot more of these, actually.

All false accusations should have a harsher punishment.

I am so with you on this OP
YANBU in the least

I think we should be wondering why we live in a society where the concept of "the race card" exists in the first place. Considering how many people of ethnic minorities are treated badly and experience institutionalised racism, the race card isnt played as often as it could be.

Yes people do play the race card, but the majority of people who are experiencing racial injustice have to deal with it silently. Hardly any effectual work goes into tackling race discrimination, so some people piggy back on these issues and are enabled to play the race card in the first place. No they are not right, but if racial discrimination didn't happen with such frequency, they wouldn't have such a free opportunity to play the race card in the first place.

I await my flaming

That's like saying it's ok to falsely accuse someone of rape/ sexual assault because many women are victims of rape/ sexual assault ...

it would be better if the article quoted the evudence that actually convicted him.

I am sure every case of 'race card' is met by millions of cases of rascism. So the thread is pretty unreflective of life's experience. So it's a big fat biscuit!!

Appocalypse, you are talking about to very different things and NO I did not say it was ok in the slightest. I actually said it was not ok, just that we live in an unfair society that facilitates an environment where such claims, no matter how frivolous, can be made in the first place as incidents like this genuinely take place.

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Out of curiosity, do you think people should be jailed for every time they are found guilty of racism? and should the police prosecute racists? should the law change as at the moment, my understanding is that, it is not illegal to be racist. Because at the moment you seem saying that people who falsely accuse other people of something that is not illegal in the first place should be locked up in jail.

If on the other hand, you simply meant that people who commit perjury should always be jailed that is a very thing to what is in the your OP.

Using last-in first-out as redundancy selection policy can be discriminatory on grounds of age, gender and race as women, young people and ethnic minorities, tend, in general, to have shorter length of service than white, male middle-aged workers. That is why most employment advisors recommend that employers do not apply last-in first- out and use objective selection criteria based on the employee's ability to do their job.

absolutely they should be jailed for plaing the race card

as should the women who cry rape and it is no such thing

these people really do ruin lives with their lies

Oh, absolutely, the existence of such people means that actually, there is no racism. Or rape. All made up by unstable people, clearly.

Oh great, here we go. With the shamefull, piss-poor conviction rate for rape in this country why does every discussion (and it got to this from racism) hark back to false rape claims that barely bloody happen except in Daily Mail land????

Could we have some sort of penalty for those who wrongly accuse someone of playing the race card? Just to be fair.

It may not be illegal but its bloody annoying AND very difficult to refute.

I did once work in A&E and some bloke was acting like a twat and demanding a rabies shot. When I asked him to wait to be seen he went mental and started accusing me of being racist. . BUT I worked there for 6 years and it only happened once despite it being a very diverse area. So it doesnt happen that often really IME.

My DS1 occasionaly pulls it when I tell him to do the washing up though...

I have just thought about this and how often I have come across it and the thing I hear most often is 'they only said no cos I am white' or 'if I was muslim they would give me a brand new house' or 'they wouldnt say that to me if I was black cos that would be racist innit'

Is that playing the race card then?

There is far too much racism which isn't taken seriously, the people who own the corner shop near us are Indonesian, lovely family will do anything to help out if they can, and yet the some people who go in their, who the owners regard as 'friends' refer to it as the 'paki shop' and mock their accents, it's bloody awful to witness and I do pull people up on it outside. They usually shuffle off muttering about having made a 'joke'

I've suggested they have a chat with the community policeman who pops in and out, but they won't.

That said people who wrongly accuse others whatever the crime should be harshly dealt with, it somehow 'demeans' the people who are suffering racist abuse.