Following on from expectations of babies being ridiculously high, does the same thing apply to small children? I'm not saying people should accept or enjoy anti social behaviour in little ones, but people do seem to label children very quickly as 'lovely', 'bruisers', 'biters' etc and some of the labels have a permanent tone about them. My little boy has just come out the other side of a patch where he would sometimes bite and hit. Not acceptable, I never left it un dealt with but my gut said it would pass as he got more language, which it has. Also, I found with my dd that physical behaviours seemed ranked as far worse than the, typically girly, things like excluding. Seems to go along with this general anti boy thing some people have going on. I so rarely hear 'that's girls for you' but the opposite almost daily. Side issue, sorry.