to be gobsmacked at how intelligent, beautiful and generally wonderful my daughter is?

[Ormirian]

Because I keep being surprised by her. Every few weeks she seems to grow up a bit more and do something amazing.

That's all.

Thankyou

PS does anyone beleive in changelings?

"Surely in awe of, etc is a bit nicer"

Urggghh! NOOOOOO! I hate that sort of phraseology. It's so bloody MN! And completely overstates the case. It's phrase-creep - like the tabloids using 'tragedy' to talk about someone's car being nicked.

YANBU.

However, I reckon that if another little-known poster like myself had started this thread they would have been flamed to fuck for smuggery.

Funny old place, MN.

(DD is GORGEOUS THOUGH )

Nobody really cares. They just say they do as a launch pad to telling you about their own little darlinks.

Mine's the best though.

I care. Orm doesn't know me from adam but having shared a forum for longer than I care to remember, I know she's had her ups and downs and it's nice to hear her (and anybody else) being so utterly happy. And it's nice in general to have a thread celebrating the wonders of our delightful, foul mouthed children.

Nah gmajor - the reason I haven't been flamed to buggery as you so charmingly put it is that (I hope)I am not known for being a fluffy poster. I tend to be very honest about my DC, the way I bring them up and my (and their) shortcomings. So for me at least, it's quite refreshing to feel such an upwelling of unalloyed joy in any of my DC. Normally it's 'ooh I love my DC but why are they so bloody awkward' or 'please tell me that it's normal to sit under the kitchen table eating out of the cat's bowl'.

ahhhhhh

Thanks SOH! I do know you from Adam. Adam is hairier and has a problematic fear of snakes and apples

I care, too. It is lovely. We all understand, and share, the horrors and depths of our children being nasty little creatures that make us feel defeated as parents. So it is lovely to share the good stuff too.

Ah, what a nice thread.

My DD (2.9) is a sweetheart, smiley, bossy, and quite polite with minimal meltdowns - so far!

@yummymummy:
"And don't believe all the gumph about 'wait till they're teenagers' either, IMO you do the spadework when they are little: a child that knows they are loved and is listened to, and understands boundaries turns out able to cope with most things, including peer pressure."

I think so too, let's hope we are right eh?

This is a nice thread. My DD is only 8 weeks old, but she is the most wonderful little person I have ever met. DH and I are frequently amazed that we produced her. I'm glad to know I'm not the only one to feel this way.

I do all this with my grandchildren! Oh God I'm so old.
As for my own (5 of em) mostly they're a pain in the arse and drive me bleeding mental but I love em anyway. Someone has to.
And I keep re-homing the oldest ones but they're like flipping boomerangs, they keep coming back.
Gonna change me name and move one day n not tell em. Go on the witness protection equivalent thing.

Me grandchildren; now that's a completely different story. They are awesome in the extreme and can, in my eyes, do nothing wrong despite what their mothers say!!!!!

YANBU! My DS is, in my eyes, nearly perfect! He's as close to perfect as I want him, in fact. :o

Part of this if I'm honest is also fuelled by guilt. I loved my DD passionately when she was a baby but I had PND from when she was about 8m old and it went untreated for nearly a year. For a long time I felt nothing for her - apart from a vague irritation and a sense of obligation. And just as our relationship was beginning to repair itself, along came DS2 (unexpectedly) and crashed the party. I look back on her early years and just feel so so sad - I can see she was calling out for my approbation and love and I just couldn't give it to her as she wanted. The full realisation of this has only come to me in the last 5 years or so. So these amazing feelings are still quite new to me - and they come with a big side of order of guilt and regret.

hugs try not to feel guilty Ormirian. I know it's easier said than done, but PND and it's effects are not your fault. Your dd knows you love her, so that's what matters

Orm there's no need for guilt though. You sought help for the PND which means you did/do care.

at SoH "the wonders of our delightful, foul mouthed children."

And its true for all the AIBU/Beh/dev/ education threads we start that relate to our DC's its great to realise that they are lovely afterall .

Orm - up buck. We all flail about and we all do our best. You know that. Guilt is pointless, you didn't do it on purpose.

My mum often tells me about little guilts she has for things from the past (not her fault ones), and I feel quite sorry for pore little baby me. And from this I learnt something. I tell my kids they had the most fantastic, happy, loved babyhood, got breastfed incessantly, fed organic delight purees blah blah, were never put down, blah and if tho it might not be exactly all completely true - they believe it and they feel good because of it, so all the little neural pathways get love boosts that continue to impact.

Obviously the above wouldn't work had they actually been locked in a cupboard for five years.

Oh that is such an interesting strategy, hully. There is so much emphasis on truth told to children now, and of course much of that is right and very very important. But of course there is room for a nurturing and loving legend of their past too.

Thanks Eleison! Was prepared to be told I was a little barking.

We are so eminently suggestible that it seems sensible to suggest loveliness and joy where possible. If my mum hadn't told me that I cried and cried when she had to go into hospital for three weeks to have my dsis and I couldn't see her (I was one), I probably wouldn't think now that I had abandonmaent issues and early damage...

OP YAB terribly U. My DD is the best in the whole world. Fact.
She is 9.8, gorgeous, funny, sarcastic, tricky, polite, kind, sensitive, articulate and just generally a good egg.
I really look forward to collecting her from school, although this fades once she's kicked off about what i have cooked for dinner.
She is angelic looking when she is asleep too.

Ormirian- once you give birth you get 'guilt' stamped on your forehead. I remember feeling guilty over something when eldest (now 22) was about 15 months. A very wise person with older kids said to me' you think it's bad now? Wait til she's a teenager and she'll TELL you you're guilty'!
She's turned out alright, got her degree, lovely BF, good job, loves living at home (groan) and is generally a good girl, had our teenage moments which we laugh about now! In hindsight she realises she was just being a teenage a.hole.
Not bad considering much of her childhood was passed over while I was caring for her 2 severely disabled bro's! She missed out on 'mum time' a whole lot.

Hully I love your attitude. It's great to lie to the kids sometimes, innit. Gives you that sense of power. Anyway gotta make out it was all totally fab and you were exceptionally perfect mother material so when they choose your care home they'll be kinder!

Just for those who found me OP a little too sugary, I would like to say that since Friday evening DD has been sulky, bad-tempered and non-communicative.

Still think she's fairly bloody marvellous though.