Channel 4 Joy of Teen Sex 10pm Wed

[leonine98]

Has anyone seen this programme and what did you think? I have a 16 year old daughter who recorded it to watch as it is going viral amongst that age group. I saw recording first and was deeply disturbed. Advice was given on what to do if your boyfriends 'come' tastes bad, how to penetrate annally and a young 17 year old lesbian was shown how to wear a strap on dildo. Articles on how to jazz up your vagina and have a Prince Albert's fitted to your willie also included. Quite understand that some may want this information but all this stuff is on the internet and can be accessed if you want to find it in the privacy of your own room. Anyone including much younger children could find this programme and watch unsupervised and be deeply disturbed by its contents. Is this something which should be on main time TV? Very worried about pressure effect on my daughter who will think there is something wrong with her if she is not into all of this. Interested in your views. Who should I speak to in order to raise my concerns?

Where did I say teens dont have anal sex or that I WANT teens talking about first time gay anal sex???

I dont think In my experience as a parent or a proffessional that it is appropriate for a teen to be exploring anal sex and if they do I belive them to be some what vulnerable and so would rather this be addressed by the appropriate proffessionals.

so you are either not reading my posts or you are just being an antaganistic twat.

vulnerable or 16 and gay and legal?

I find your protectionism a bit odd - it's only information - why try and censor it

anyway we disagree I am off to bed too x

over-reaction, yet again

paranoia, yet again

i would like to complain. My DD's aged 14 and 12 saw a trailer for it (I think we were watching Mary Portas togehter at the time) and I thought, no way are they watching THAT! it was on too late anyway, but as I said, they did get to see the trailer. I watched it though, and yes I thought it was awful and hideous and just degrading. I would definitely complain.

yes network seems there is much more clarity maybe you should both take a look.

so do I, refered to the fact I work with teens as part of my job too.

yes [biscuit} thanks thats helpfull.

why not send our teens out to have anal sex out of a loving relationship, increase the risk of contarcting aids and cancer, yeay, what to go!!! whilst underminding the importance of self esteem, acceptance, positive body image need I go on.

I saw it and at 37yrs old was amazed and angered at the age group it was targeting.

If I had teenagers they would not have watched it. You would think that with the level of teenage pregnancy and STD's we have in this country, it would have been FAR more appropriate to give a more educational slant on precaution and prevention, rather than glamourising it... I thought the Sex Education Show was spot on last year at giving the right message to a similar aged audience.

It was complete madness imo...

agree with madam. our culture has become so incredibly sexualised, so 'have it with anybody anywhere anyway you like, there is something wrong with you if you don't (what's the matter with you it's fun'). and to be pumping this at teens? appalling, degrading, very upsetting.

Well, I have just watched it and I didn't see what all the fuss is about. It is no different to topics covered in teenage magazines that I was buying at age 12.

This girl is really too immature to be having sex

how horrible

why oh why oh why

talk about barrel scrape

And herein lies why the uk has such an ill informed youth when it comes to sex. They are surrounded by prudish adults who don't trust them to make informed decisions by arming them with information!

At no stage of the show dud they encourage anal sex...all they did was give homosexual teens an equal attention to straight. I remember being a tentative 17 yr old wishing I knew a bit more than the basics...if practiced with SAFETY and PRECAUTION where is the harm in enjoying sex?? We all know plenty of teens do it...at least arm them with knowledge on contrception and importantly CONFIDENCE so they don't feel they can't express a fear or a preference. If at least 10 girls watched the foolish teen who took o precaution against STI and thought they would not make the same mistake, then the show has done a service.

As for the gay guy...aged about 18. Do you not see how gay teens cannot be marginalized?! Why address straight issues and not gay ones?

lol at uk youth being ill informed about sex

Appletrees, they are ill informed about the realities of it, the STI side of things, pregnancy risk. Hence the incredibly high rate of teen pregnancies here. Of course they know sex exists but how many girls do you think have been taught to have the self confidence and empowerment to stand their ground over contraception, or indeed whether they even get any satisfaction from the encounter. Schools teach the mechanics...often in such a way as to distance the learner from the lesson!

Actually on the show there was quite a well spoken girl who admitted she had only used the pill when sleeping with men, totally ignorant or self deluded about how safe she really was. She ended up crying when faced with the realities of her actions...that was one girl, likely educated...how many others do you think exist out there in similar situations of self denial?

Moving onto the homosexual teen, nervous about coming out, nervous about the realities of homosexualty, where do they learn of the dangers (and fun!) that sex and sexual relations can pose? Where can they find a non judgmental lesson for them? Clearly reading some of the above comments many feel they haven't earned their equal footing on such a lesson with straight teens. Such a shame.

They get it in school.

The incredibly high rate of teenage pregnancy is due to many different reasons. Anyone who doesn't know about contraception in this day and age, given th excellent sex education most schools offer, is too young to have sex.

Reasons teenagers get pregnant: kudos, failure of employment opportunity, their mates getting pregnant, feeling that they ougt to have sex because everyone is and it's all over the TV, media pressure, financial reward.

Yes, they should be taught that it's acceptable to say no. The pressure is not ust from males. It's from other girls and the media.

My initial reaction to this programme was that it was terrible and inappropriate. But then you get to thinking about what kids already have access to and what they are currently learning - don't necessarily go along with Appletrees suggestion that the 'youth' are well informed about sex, but think she might be making the point that they know a huge amount more about certain aspects of sex than we did when we were younger. The issue is more that the kids I know seem knowledgable about a 'pornified' version of sex. (Is pornified a word? - if not, can I TM it?)

I suppose I'd rather they learnt the important stuff alongside the stuff that we might find shocking as opposed to not learning it at all. I'm still pretty undecided though. Gues like most things it is more the case that it'll be good for some kids and possibly inappropriate for others.

Final question: I don't have teen kids myself, so I wonder if the programme is a response to a media hysteria rather than the reality, i.e. are our teenagers really as debauched and sex-savvy as is suggested in the media? Obviously some of them are, some of them aren't, but I wonder whether the majority of kids are bought up by good parents who are able to educate them responsibly about sex alongside the schools and, actually, this programme is actually only appropriate for a niche of the population?

I am not denying they learn the fundamentals of contraception, heck even I got that lesson in the 90s from a fumbling catholic school (condom over a bunsen burner!). What was missing was the subsequent support and advice in how to make sure your partner agrees to using protection, in making sure you dont forget to use it yourself, and how to feel confident enough to say you're not ready. I agree pressure from other girls is probably one of the biggest influences on how young relations start and how promiscuous they might be. TV soaps aimed at teens try to make a big deal of teen pregnancy etc but somehow gloss over the real consequences of finding yourself out of education, on your own, on the breadline.

I'd love to say i disagree about the financial reward comment you made...but for a minority you're spot on and it is tragic.

I dont see how the ch4 programme is going to encourage teens to have more sex, or more risky sex. What i think it might (hopefully) do is make them have a conversation with their partner about their preferences with regards to what they do and how they do it. The more open the conversation, the more likely both sides are to get what they want. They'd be shagging regardless...lets not forget that!

I actually think the programme would be VERY shocking to quite a lot of teens - certainly to younger ones. There is a vast difference between a child of 13 and a man or woman of 19. Very sad.

You can't blame teenage pregnancy on lack of information. If info and exposure are rising at the same time as teenage pregnancy it's simply illogical to do so.

Don Juan anyone?

Well, I liked the general approach (non-judgemental, non-sensational). However, I think that fringe topics were given far too much coverage. Too many frontal shots when backsides would have conveyed the message. The piercing was teetering on the edge of voyeurism.

Where is this Sex Advice Shop anyway? Are they going to make an appearance on every Mc High Street?

Where does it say that the programme was aimed at 13 year olds? I can't find that anywhere. My 13 year old is not watching tv at 10 o clock on a weeknight.
I am though, and while I was at some of the content, I also would be more than happy to watch it again with my 15 year old - actually, not with them, I mean, have a chat with them about it after they'd watched it.
I'd much rather they had all the information they possibly could, to enable them to make important decisions and choices in their relationships, now and in the future. Can I also say, that I already knew about all of the stuff discussed, but haven't tried it necessarily, so why assume that people will rush out to try anal sex, strap-ons etc just because they've had it explained to them?

That's so naive.

tomhardyismydh - "maybe you should both take a look. "

Take a look at what ? I saw episode 1 on 4oD at the weekend after seeing various comments in the Telly Addicts section, though didn't recall fine detail like each person's age.

figcake - "Where is this Sex Advice Shop anyway?"

Fictional, created for the purpose of the programme only. Someone liked to a blog which explained how the production team planned to put it all together last spring/summer, and was critical on a number of aspects, not least the promotional methods, but also that the happy relaxed "on TV" Advice Shop thing is somewhat different to reality... I must go back and re-read the blog entry but it had so many links off to other articles (blogger gone mad!) it could take me some time...

Thanks Network - I was not asking seriously although you never know..