to get fed up with ignorant people on trains who take up 2 seats for 1 person

[magimix]

time and time again you get on a busy train and for some reason people are sitting on the aisle seat with their luggage on the window seat, now correct me if I am wrong but the luggage does'nt have a ticket, so why do people think they can hog the train seats like this, so annoying when passengers have to stand.

Arf at scrotal ventilation. Anyone seen the female drag classes that teach this?

Nightmare when a woman with the widest arse in the world squeezed into the seat next to me.... I got up and stood the rest of the way.

There were a couple on the train last week who sat on the table seats but dumped their luggage on two seats behind them so they took up 6 seats between them. I thought this was selfish.

slugontoast that reminds me of when I went to a Chris rock show and it must have been the same lady sat who next to me.

I said nothing, no huffing or anything when she was in my seat (both above and below the arm rest) just watched the show.

Rock started jokes about how it's rude for a skinny lady to make comments to larger ladies but the other way round is somehow ok. He then came out with some cracking lines about 'cheerio for a belt skinny ladies' etc and the seat over spilling lady beside me thought it was her moment to make pointed comments towards me with every joke!

How I wished it wasnt rude to make a comment about her refunding half my seat cost

YABU I agree with LRD.

Was on a busy London bus last year in morning rush hour. Last seat upstairs had a lads tool bag on it. Man came upstairs and asked the lad to move it as there was nowhere else to sit. Within seconds it was fisticuffs, other passengers pulled them apart & man #2 went back downstairs, whilst lad got a claw hammer out of his bag and stuck it up his sleeve. Of the 20 or so witnesses, not one other waited for the police to come .

Not to mention people hogging tables in cafes before they've got their food so that muggins here has nowhere to sit, even though I'm ahead in the queue.

Oh, is that a separate AIBU?

I do ask people to move their stuff on trains though!

Yes, ask them to move it. Don't fume about things.

YANBU, though

example, yesterday train was filling up couple sitting next to each other had a table with 4 seats, they sat together and their large holdall bag had the 2 seats opposite, why should I have to ask them to take their dirty bag off of the seats, they could see the train was filling up, did they really expect people were going to ignore their bag, of course I asked for the seats but had to sit where their dirty bag had been. The guy on the opposite side kept his rucksack on the window seat totally ignoring the fact that he could have moved it & let a standing passenger have his seat. So many ignorant people these days, don't know what would happen if a carriage full of elderly people got on

You should not have to ask, you are right. I just think that there are a lot of people who either do not think about other people's needs, or who think, but don't care. Don't let them get away with it. Asserts yourself, otherwise the selfish people win

assert

DH has quite often had people huff and puff and give evils when he has asked them to move bags. He once put a woman's bag in the overhead shelf as she was deliberately ignoring him.

An incident he witnessed was one seat left on a train going in to work, young lady got on and politely asked man to move bag, he said no, she grabbed his bag and went and stuck it in the bin by the door. She sat down and he just sat there all . Everyone was just sitting there trying not to laugh and then bursting into laughter once they alighted.

I thought you were going to talk about people whose arses take up two seats. Usually, but not always, a large person, they sit with one arsecheek on each seat and when asked to move up, do so with the tiniest of sideways jerks leaving approximately enough room for Kate Moss on the proferred seat.

People would rather stand than squish up next to strangers, I've noticed.

They should either make the seats larger or bums smaller.

Just politely ask them to move their luggage and they generally do!

melezka I have not seen the classes in scrotal ventilation for female drag artists. Are they cheaper than Canesten?

Men only ever do that leg-spready-sit thing when they're sitting next to women. period. They wouldn't dream of rubbing knees with a man next to them, but women are fair game of course.

One of my favourite humour writers took a short poll of his readers on the issue (he writes for the Washington Post) and was shocked at how many females reported back that they experienced this regularly on public transport.

viola: uh - no. But almost certainly more fun.

I'm shocked that he was shocked, cake.

cakewench - good point I had not thought of. Next time I'm on a bus I will check what happens when two blokes sit next to each other

YANBU to be fed up with it - it really makes my blood boil when this happens. I hate the passive-aggressiveness of it - I don't really want to sit next to you, either, bag-on-seat-person, especially as you are clearly a twunt - but I'd rather sit next to you than stand.

I always make a beeline for them, even if there are other empty seats and ask pointedly but politely if anyone's sitting there [bgrin]. Makes me mighty glad when they get all huffy - but rarely happens, usually they are embarrassed by their own twattishness.

I certainly wouldn't stand whilst there were bag-occupied seats available - can't believe anyone would! I am not confrontational (despite the above - it's just that this is a particular bugbear of mine) but still think that's barmy.

It has happened to me. Got on the train one morning to commute into London and there was a bag sitting on the middle seat of three. I asked the woman if she would move it (was roller cabin bag style/size) and she said no. I replied that as it didn't have a ticket and I had, it didn't get a seat. She refused again to move it so I lifted it up and dropped it on her lap. She then said that I had anger issues and I told her that she needed to learn some manners!

The guy opposite offered to put it on the floor beside him or up on the rack but she refused as she wanted to have it close to her.

What a way to start a morning

Jamie- I'll be interested to hear your report! :)

Mel- It seems that men who do not engage in this behaviour seem to be oblivious to it. At least from the reactions this writer had to his poll.

meh,i only book quiet trains and luckily dont have to commute, but on the way back to uni after xmas a couple of years ago, my suitcase was stolen from the luggage rack at the end, (xmas presents, camera etc all gone!)so now I try to always sit by the rack or have it with me, when asked I always would move it, and not have it resting dirty wheels on the seat anyway,
but if i have to leave it in the ruck I am so paranoid I end up looking like a meerkat as I have to keep checking it is still there!!

Some people are not comfortable talking to strangers. Its plain ignorant. However we cannot judge people by our standards. It also forcrs people to sit by people who not have bags next to them.