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to want this paedophile moved on?

40 replies

Meandlilg · 23/01/2011 16:53

He's someone I've known most of my life. Someone my daughter's known ALL her life and considers a family friend. He's just been convicted of serious child porn charges and got a 3-year community order, registered on the sex offenders' register for 5 years and yet HE'S STILL ALLOWED TO REMAIN IN HIS HOUSE 100 YARDS FROM THE PRIMARY SCHOOL that my daughter attends. The ONLY reason he escaped prison is because he's allegedly his 85-yr old mum's main carer, but I know for a fact that she cooks his tea and does his washing all the time. He lives next door to my mother and now he's been convicted, his bail conditions no longer apply and he can come and go as he likes.
Am I being unreasonable to want him disappeared?

OP posts:
WingDad · 23/01/2011 17:16

Tatty, with regards to the law, it's not illegal to be a paedophile technically.

If you're convicted of child sex offences (possession/distribution/creation of child porn, grooming, rape etc.), then legally you're deemed a Sex Offender, not a paedophile (although the person probably is one, IYSWIM).

One cannot be convicted of paedophilia.

OP, yeah I'd be worried, but as people have said, at least now he's known so you can avoid if possible. I don't think he should be moved on, it's pretty impossible to NOT live near some sort of eductional establishment or youth club after all.

WingDad · 23/01/2011 17:18

Deardot, Internet Service Providers can see who visits what site and may have reported him to the authorities. Similarly, he may have been in contact with someone who was arrested on similar offences and seen he was a contact and wanted to check him too.

There are many possibilities.

YesMaam · 23/01/2011 17:20

Is he a council tenant or a tenant of a housing association? If so then they might evict him simply for having been convicted of these offences. Such convictions are one of the grounds of possession that landlords can kick people out for, provided the court thinks it reasonable, and living 100 yrds away from a school, they might think so.

If he owns his house...that is a whole different matter.

That said...better the devil you know?

smellmycheese · 23/01/2011 17:21

Your feelings are completely understandable, so in that sense URNBU at all.

However I echo other's points. If he was to disappear from your area, he would unfortunately appear in someone elses. And they would be in greater danger, as they wouldn't know who or what he was Sad

Bogeyface · 23/01/2011 17:25

I would rather have your problem than ours!

We have atleast 2 convicted and recently released Paedophiles in this area, one of whom it was admitted could still be considered a risk to children. No one but the police know who they are and where they live. the information was released as far as the local press were allowed, but as there were restrictions it means that it could be anyone, anywhere.

You know who he is and where he is, that gives you a knowledge most of the country dont have. I would be upset but would use the information to my advantage rather than wishing he was moved and placed in an area where the locals know nothing about him.

Pan · 23/01/2011 17:38

OP I am seriously doubting the only reason he didn't get an immediate custodial is because of him being a 'carer' - the sentencing judge would have assesed his risk to the public with the benfit of a pre-sentence report from the Probation service and poss. a psychologists report, regarding the wisdom of managing his risk in the community.

ShoshanaBlue · 23/01/2011 17:41

..or the prisons could just be full...

Pan · 23/01/2011 17:48

no, the prisons are very overcrowded but not 'full' and the judiciary do not make independent decisions based on that.
He will also no doubt have a prevention order stopping him from having a puter or accessing the internet for the length of his order.

midori1999 · 23/01/2011 18:01

Pan, I agree. I think it is actually fairly common for paedophiles even convicted of committing abuse towards children often don't get custodial sentences.

I feel for you OP, but you will be able to protect your child from this man now you know.

HecateQueenOfWitches · 23/01/2011 18:15

Horrible situation.

It is very hard to think logically when it's you in the situation, but try to remember that someone you know about is not as dangerous as someone you don't know about. You are aware of this man and can make sure your children are not at risk from him. The bigger danger comes from those people who have not been identified but who are living in your street, or your village.

ApocalypseCheeseToastie · 23/01/2011 18:25

I had a convicted rapist living next door to me, I didn't like it but as they say 'keep your friends close and your enemies closer'

At least you know who, and where he is, unlike some poor sods if he ever moved.

TattyDevine · 23/01/2011 18:30

Oh Apocalypse that made me giggle (bad taste sorry) on the basis of your thread where you said there was no crime in your village etc the day you left your door unlocked (sorry sorry sorry, photographic memory)

TattyDevine · 23/01/2011 18:31

In which case he may have moved on because you said "had" so I will eff off now Grin

Grandhighpoohba · 23/01/2011 18:39

He will have got a non custodial sentence as it can be part of his conditions that he has to attend groups to address his behaviour, and because if he is a liberty, he can be supervised to ensure he is changing his behaviour. If he got 2 years in jail, then great, the community is protected for 2 years, but then he is free, with little supervision, and no requirement to undertake any rehabilitation.

Using the term paedophile actually confuses matters, although I accept that the media uses the term freely. Paedophilia is actually rare and not thought to be treatable, and refers to someone who can only be aroused by children. And should not be at large in the community. Most child abusers are not paedophiles, and their behaviour can to some extent be addressed, under careful supervision, which can only happen in the community, unless we are willing to pay to lock them up for life.

If this guy is living near a school, then he will have been assessed as safe to do so, and will be being supervised accordingly. I, personally, would rather know where he is, so I could be on my guard. Moving him on would a) expose more people to any danger he might pose, and b) make him more likely to re-offend.

ApocalypseCheeseToastie · 23/01/2011 18:51

Lol, that was over 12 years ago in a house we rented, pre dcs

Long moved since then

And I don't live in a 'village'.....

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