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could somebody help me please?

17 replies

inneedofhelp2 · 22/01/2011 14:54

I'm sorry, I think this might get long. I am a regular, but people know me IRL and I don't want to identify myself. No-one has any idea what is going on behind closed doors and everyone thinks I am a strong person who is in control. I even manage to convince myself of that most of the time.

Most of the time, my marriage is wonderful. DH who isn't always very thoughtful, but not deliberately, not demanding in any way, I do pretty much what I like, spend money on what I want etc. However, sometimes we have huge rows and there have been a couple of incidents where my DH has been violent towards me and I am unsure as to whether I am a victim or peretrator of domestic violence or whether the relationship in general is abusive. My head is all over the place. Either way, I don't see how the relationship can continue if I am being realistic, but I just keep hoping the bad times will become less and less.

During our rows we both shout at each other. I usually accuse DH of being selfish he then usually accuses me of being lazy/arguementitive/spending too much money on my hobby (which also brings in a reasonable income)/being difficult to live with etc. Any conversation afterwards I try to have about our relationship is always one sided with me talking, him silent. (he says he doesn't know what to say) and I have to admit I have sometimes got frustrated and thrown/smashed things, partly as I know he hates it and it gets a reaction and any reaction is better than him ignoring me. He has got frustrated and punched walls/slammed doors and on several occasions (although not at all recently) has pushed/shoved/strangled/hit me. Each time he has been physically violent he was very drunk.

This morning he got up to go to his recently re started hobby. He had said he was only going one day this weekend as he went Sat and Sun last weekend. I was disappointed he was now going both days this weekend too as it means we don't get a lay in together. A while later (having not been) he came back to bed but ignored me. We had a bit of a row, he then did the usual 'jokey' 'gave me a cuddle then' and he was laughing. The rowing went on a bot and ended with me in tears, him saying he might as well go and kill himself and me shouting at him to go and do that then. (it's not the first time he's threatened it) A short pause, me crying and he then screams at me 'what the fuck is wrong with you, I can't put up with this' and similar, whilst I was sobbing.

Other than thse rows I do feel like the marriage is great and that is why I stay. I do hope with counselling or something there is a way to sort it out, but I feel like he doesn't take me seriously. I think counselling for me would help get things clear, I don't think I am ready to leave, but m unsure of how long a referral from my GP would take or how to go about finding a private counsellor or how much it would cost.

Any advice on what is going on here or what I can do would be very appreciated.

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narkypuffin · 22/01/2011 15:01

I'm sure lots of people can give you advice, but I would suggest relationship counselling at the very least. There are lots of knowledgeable people on here but it sounds like you need immediate professional help.

It's not a healthy relationship and it sounds like it's escalating. Apportioning blame right now is unhelpful. Please just get some help, individually and as a couple.

AnyoneforTurps · 22/01/2011 15:06

Contact Relate - www.relate.org.uk/home/index.html

And you have to take responsibility for your own behaviour. Am not saying this to let your DH off the hook - violence to you is unacceptable under ANY circumstances but it sounds like you both need help with anger management. The first step is owning your behaviour and taking responsibility for controlling it.

Toastiewoastie · 22/01/2011 15:22

It definitely sounds like you both need some urgent marriage councelling.

I sincerely hope you manage to sort through the issues you have, and save your marriage, before it is too late.

fedupofnamechanging · 22/01/2011 15:33

While you wait for the counselling, could you each agree on one or two things that you will each stop doing, as a way of acknowledging that it annoys your partner so much. That way you would at least be trying to be nicer to each other. Agree that you need to speak to someone professional asap.

milkysmum · 22/01/2011 15:48

Relate will not offer joint counselling to a couple when there is violence occuring. They may agree to see you for individual counselling. Cost depends on your salary - about £20 for low earners/ on benefit up to about £60 per session for those on a reasonable wage. Good luck X

ThePosieParker · 22/01/2011 15:56

Well him hitting you is enough to make most people leave, violence usually escalates in a relationship and so this could well just be the beginning. Relate will enforce a timeout rules which is 30 minute apart completely, minimum. If you can do this there may be some hope.

Asteria · 22/01/2011 16:09

What they said - start with relate as soon as possible and make sure that you spend more time discussing this problem with him than you do with us. Whilst we can give priceless advice, only you and he know your relationship enough to pass big judgements upon it.

Good luck

surfandturf · 22/01/2011 16:17

I used to be in a relationship like this and it was awful. (I wasn't married) It didn't get any better just got progressively worse - he was very controlling and jealous which is what sparked most arguments. You can't carry on like this - agree with counselling in the first instance. Good luck and be strong.

ledkr · 22/01/2011 16:27

How old are you both?It seems fairly immature to say "im going to kill myself" cos you have a row.

Itsjustafleshwound · 22/01/2011 16:33

I seriously think you need some help. The fact that you acknowledge this problem is a step forward.

Saying that, can you not agree on some ground rules or have a safe place you can go to when things look like they are spiralling out of control?? Can you not remove yourself from the situation before it descends into violence and abuse?

ThePosieParker · 22/01/2011 17:13

Phew...now on a PC, not the phone/.

Relate advises that your body, well rage, takes a whole 30 minutes to calm down. When you reconvene you can only criticise yourself.

I think you'll have to get your DH to agree to this or you will leave. I promise it will get worse, once you cross the line into violence it is a threat that NEVER leaves.

unpsychicsally · 22/01/2011 17:20

Hope that you can get some help/counselling and work things out.

I would completely stop drinking as a couple if the violence/arguments escalate when drinking/drunk. You will be able to think a lot clearer too.

Good luck

blackeyedsusan · 22/01/2011 18:56

relate won't see you together if there has been violence in the relationship. they will see you seperately.
you can get an appointment through your gp. they can be reasonably quick. some surgeries have counsellors in house and that is free. private counselling is about £30 per hour I think although some will be supported by charity.

you can call the domestic abuse advice line on 0808 2000 24 7 they give really good advice. or try womens aid website.

TheVisitor · 22/01/2011 18:59

You both need to do some anger management and get some counselling separately. I also agree wholeheartedly that alcohol needs to go if it's a catalyst.

TheSkiingGardener · 22/01/2011 19:06

It sounds as though you are really struggling to communicate.

All sorts of counselling is available. The BACP website explains what sorts of counselling are out there and has a find a therapist link. Whether you need counselling alone or together depends on how willing he is to engage. It could be that you have some sessions together but also have individual counselling.

Good luck, it's a tough road and I hope you get the help you need.

inneedofhelp2 · 22/01/2011 20:51

Thankyou.

He had gone out earlier (I wasn't aware, I decided to stay in bed and get some much needed rest). We tried talking but not much success although it didn't lead to another arguement and things are OK for now.

He did speak on the phone to someone at Respect after the second incidence of violence and he hasn't been physically violent since then (over 2 years) but has been verbally aggressive and does still blame me sometimes for his aggressive behaviour. He also stopped drinking completely some time ago and I don't drink anyway. I appreciate I am not completely innocent in this either and agree it is a communication problem.

We will shortly have to live apart for several months due to his work, which is probably a good thing, so we will probably have to leave it until after that to arrange counselling, but will try Relate.

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brightlightsandpromises · 22/01/2011 21:02

dont have anything to add, but wanted to offer my support. Is he depressed?

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