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to just not understand 'Wanted Down Under'

216 replies

AtYourCervix · 20/01/2011 09:24

All these people wanting to move 'To improve the quality of life'

but every one has older children refusing to go, partners with 'major concerns' and extended families devastated at the thought of families so far away.

Why? I don't get how this could Improve their lives.

Enlighten me.....

OP posts:
stayathomedaddy46 · 11/01/2017 17:32

User, I lived and worked in Australia for 5 years and NZ for 35...

saltandvinegarcrisps1 · 11/01/2017 17:33

Charr22 - indeed. "Look at us all walking outdoors as a family. We couldn't do this in the UK". Try doing it in 35,plus degrees or during fly season. Shock

stayathomedaddy46 · 11/01/2017 17:36

...of course its a stereo type! Its designed as bate for the simple minded who neither understand context nor pause for the shortest of duration as to ascertain perspective.

missyB1 · 11/01/2017 17:36

I will say the health system in NZ works well, but maybe that's because most employed people have health insurance and the population is only about 4 million anyway! The Government hospital my husband worked in was really smart and very well equipped, and the staff were well trained - lots of them were British or South African.

stayathomedaddy46 · 11/01/2017 17:39

Nicely put salt LOL

Msqueen33 · 11/01/2017 17:52

I always wonder why they immediately think why change your life so dramatically before trying to adjust it where you have family connections. _All very extreme. Heaven forbid you could actually walk on a UK beach! Shock horror

BananaInPyjama · 12/01/2017 00:01

Down under a bloke is sexy if he can throw a pass 20 metres, wears a vest, fry a steak on the barbie and says "sweet as mate" and "gidday" more than 10 times a day.

Bit like me saying all British men sit on deck chairs with knotted hankies on their heads, wearing socks and sandals.

Strange as it may seem there are bogans here in Aus (chavs) but - gasp- there are also well educated, decent people too. A shock I know but it is a pretty diverse country.

Back on track- I never understand why people who would not dream of moving from London to Oxfordshire will seriously consider moving to Perth...

Caterina99 · 12/01/2017 00:42

Having moved to the US for DHs work, this program really annoys me! Yes we have hot weather here in the summer, but you can't go out in it very much cos it's too hot! So you are inside. Not much different from what you are moaning about in the UK. Plus we still have to go to work and commute and things. It's not the same as being on holiday!

Verity23 · 12/01/2017 04:39

Have you ever lived in Aus Giddy? You have very strong opinions about it but it sounds like you've never even visited.

We do have Medicare and free public education here. I've had major back surgery and 2 kids and not paid a cent.
We get most of the more popular BBC shows here anyway and they're free - no tv license.

Expecting any country to be perfect is obviously foolish, but Australia is actually a really nice place to live!

thetoothfairywhoforgot · 12/01/2017 05:20

NZ was the first country to legalise gay marriage and to give women the vote.

We moved to NZ several years ago. It's not perfect, nowhere is. You still have to work, life is very expensive and shit happens. But for us, it has worked out and our quality of life is way better.

I've seen a lot of people progress faster in their careers here due to it's small size. We live ten mins from the beach which does make it easier to visit so we go more - three times this week. Our weather is not as extreme as Oz so we get outside most days. We just don't sunbathe for hours and cover up.

The main attraction for me is the relaxed nature and general respect people have for each other. Unless they are driving. Kiwi's are fucking loons behind the wheel.

echt · 12/01/2017 05:27

Thank you for your post, Banana, that lazy stereotyping got on my thre'pennies too.

Mind you..Perth....:o

Glastokitty · 12/01/2017 05:46

Lots of generalisations on this thread, as usual for a Wanted Down Under thread! I am in Oz and have a friend who has been on the programme, she is very definitely middle class and totally 'living the dream' at the massive house she has just built by the beach. She told me the whole thing is pretty much fabricated, they film every moment of the day for a week and pick the good bits, and she said they definitely encourage people to cry a lot and moan!

Our lifestyle is more modest, but its is undoubtedly a massive improvement on our quality of life in the UK and Ireland. I've lived in Ireland, North and South, and also did a decade in London. All were good places to live ( I loved London) , my life here is better. My house is three streets back from a beautiful beach, a forty five minute train commute to the CBD (but I work locally, a short bus ride). We love the heat, yesterday I finished work at 330 (I started early) and went for a swim at the beach after work.

We have lots of friends from all over, Poms, Kiwis, Aussies, Saffas (strangely no Irish though). Aussies are not all bogan, sports obsessed pissheads (as some people on here seem to think) , and there is lots of culture here, although admittedly not a lot of stately homes! I've been to the theatre four times this year, more than I ever managed in London. Of course Perth won't compare to London or New York, but not many places can. And it has other compensations.

Oh, and I emigrated without visiting first (although I did huge amounts of research.) We also came with no jobs or schools sorted, and only a short term rental. It all worked out fine. Our families miss us, but they see how happy we are and are glad for us, and I know how lucky I am that they think that way.

sashh · 12/01/2017 06:00

one chap went and 'discovered' his job didn't give him enough points for admission into Australia

OMG, friend of a friend claims he is moving to Oz. He hasn't got a great job, no uni education, no real skills. Nothing wring with that, but as he has been planning for years you'd think he'd have looked at the points system

Some people think you can still emigrate for £10. No that was the 1960s.

Actually I think that's where some of the people think they are living 1962.

My aunt emigrated then, we were really impressed that 10 years later that they lived in a house with a pool.

My aunt's response was, 'but you have a colour TV!'

I love Oz and I want to see more of it. I couldn't live there I don't think.

My first visit at 16, sole, but to the aforementioned aunt I think I could have.

I think if you are intending to move then it probably is best to do it before you have a settled life and kids.

Or to have it as part of the plan. We will live in country x for 5 years then move to Y.

Pluto30 · 12/01/2017 06:01

Also, the TV is very poor there.

According to whom? We have ample free-to-air stations, or Foxtel; we have Netflix, you can get Apple TV etc. Absolutely no different to the UK.

The news very insular, not really concerned with world news unless it affects Australia.

Funnily enough, just watched a video by an American student living in Australia who said the exact opposite.

Radio only plays the latest music.

Wrong. I listen to 101.7 WSFM (Sydney station), which is all "older" music. There are equivalent stations everywhere.

I do feel the balance needs to be redressed.

It doesn't when what you're saying is plain wrong.

Pluto30 · 12/01/2017 06:02

NZ was the first country to legalise gay marriage and to give women the vote.

To be fair, they also have one of the highest rates of domestic violence in the world.

(Just to be a pain in the ass!)

thetoothfairywhoforgot · 12/01/2017 06:21

Pluto - very true. Our child poverty and suicide rates are bloody awful as well. We are also one of the few countries to even try to make amends for colonisation. Rather than being 'stuck in the 1950's', we have led the world in some ways.

stayathomedaddy46 · 12/01/2017 06:32

Eeeup Banana, Nout wrong with deck chairs ont beach!

ZouBisou · 12/01/2017 07:03

It's just so far away. I emigrated, but am less than a couple of hours (cheap) plane ride from the UK. The thought of being 24 hours away and only being to afford to come back once in a blue moon is really tough. I'm surprised so many people do it, unless they have very weak friend/family connections in UK or see it as temporary.

I guess most people want to go there because of the sunny, beachy lifestyle plus the fact that it's an English speaking country with some cultural points in common, and possibilities to get a job/visa. When you think about it, it's hard to think of anywhere comparable closer to home, even if you take out the English requirement. Don't imagine that job opportunities abound in Spain/ Portugal/ Greece/ Italy, especially on the coast. French Riviera v expensive. Northern African countries probably very culturally different. US very difficult to get a visa...

ForalltheSaints · 12/01/2017 07:05

Cheap afternoon tv?

echt · 12/01/2017 07:07

Eeeup Banana, Nout wrong with deck chairs ont beach!

The point generalisation you were making about Australian men was not funny. Or true.

And it's Ey -up....nowt wrong with deck chairs on t'beach.

P1nkP0ppy · 12/01/2017 07:30

I worked with someone who emigrated to Sydney after her husband had a telephone interview for a job. They didn't have children, took three dogs and two cats with them. The suburb they moved to was mainly German families and she struggled big time to fit in. It was also some distance from her job and they couldn't afford two cars so she had a 90 minute commute.
They came back after a year, only to discover that they couldn't afford a house here so moved in with her widowed mother. it didn't work well because it was very rural north Wales; neither of them could get jobs.
So after six months they went back to Australia, pets et al, and as far as I know they're still there.

LarrytheCucumber · 12/01/2017 07:37

Crazycavalier we have relatives in Tasmania and they have always spent the winter in Queensland because Tasmania is too cold.

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Msqueen33 · 12/01/2017 08:08

Glastokitty, glad that worked for you but can't imagine not researching or having jobs.

I think the heat and lack of seasons would finish me off. I suppose it depends what your current life is like. It's a nice dream but needs a pinch of realism.

Giddyaunt18 · 12/01/2017 15:58

Yes I have visited Australia. I have a brother and 2 aunties there, plus nephews and various cousins. They love life out there but they (roughly 10 people) who are intelligent(teachers, directors and students among them) tell me these things about TV and radio. They say it's very Americanised, especially Foxtel. They watch BBC shows when they can, check all news via the BBC website etc. They are fortunate to be well said and can afford good private healthcare etc but still they are honest about the short comings. they crave old buildings and come back every few years for a fix!