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To want someone to tell me what "NT" stands for?

78 replies

magicmummy1 · 17/01/2011 23:57

I see it on lots of threads here, and I assume from the context that it refers to children who are not disabled/don't have special needs. But I can't figure out for the life of me what it stands for.

I'm sure I'm being thick, but would someone please rescue me from my ignorance? Blush

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researchinmotion · 18/01/2011 00:46

I have the acronym page open in a sepatrate tab so I can look them up.

It does get confusing if someone has a large family and mentions them all in a long post. DD/DC/DS/DB/DU and so on.

One thing that puzzles me is when people put D in front of FIL/SIL etc Isn't the FIL enough without the D? And I do have a silent giggle when someone is having a good ole proper rant about someone and prefix it with D - I imagine it being said dripping with sarcasm. Grin

Goblinchild · 18/01/2011 00:47

Definitely more of a continuum than a simple two camps set up. It's just difficult to explain when the differences aren't visible or identifiable by scan or X-ray. Smile

ApocalypseCheeseToastie · 18/01/2011 00:47

Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee goblin ?? Blush

Goblinchild · 18/01/2011 00:49

Lots of research being done too.
Simon Baron-Cohen at Cambridge is running a major research project.

Goblinchild · 18/01/2011 00:51

Vanguard, Apocolypse.
You know, the pointy front end of the army who get a kicking first because they are heading into unfamiliar and possibly hostile territory.

ApocalypseCheeseToastie · 18/01/2011 00:53

Yes, yes. I'm well versed in the art of vanguarding thingy me bobs, and I will continue to lead the way, I will not be defeated !!

WilheminaAteHer · 18/01/2011 01:00

Ugh, the bloody Baron-Cohens. What have they ever contributed to society? Wink Envy

cory · 18/01/2011 08:54

tbh I have bit of a problem with the use expression of the expression NT to denote the others on the Special Needs boards. It seems to assume that the Special Needs boards are only for people whose special needs are caused by their neurological state. So where does that leave children whose disabilities have nothing to do with neurological atypicality? Are they not properly disabled? Don't they count? Are the boards

Yes, I do use the phrase, but at the same time I wonder if I have a right to it: nobody really knows if my dcs' disability is neurologically linked or not. Quite likely my children are NT, but they are also disabled and have special needs. So using NT as a contrast to special needs seems to reinforce the old idea that all people with special needs are the same.

RobynLou · 18/01/2011 09:06

I had wondered about that cory - someone can surely be 'NT' and also disabled?

it's pretty impossible to have a term which expresses all 'differently abled' people (that was a term I was taught to use at a work training session.... it of course has its own problems)

aurynne · 18/01/2011 09:32

But couldn't "special needs" be also considered offensive, as it implies these people are "needy"? I bet in another year we will have another replacement word (or acronym, or very long phrase) to define them. I do find it highly annoying, and always wonder why some people CHOOSE to be offended with any of the terminology. FGS, they are just words! If someone wants to be offensive, surely they can use any term and make it sound so.

SaorAlba · 18/01/2011 09:36

Oh, it also means 'nuchal translucency' in relation to antenatal scans.

Deciduousblonde · 18/01/2011 09:37

I always prefer my children to be referred to as either 'mainstream' or 'non-mainstream'

As I have 2 of each, it's easier for me. No 'normals' or 'disableds' thank you :)

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Unrulysun · 18/01/2011 09:44

Aurynne how often do you need to refer to people as NT that you find it so irritating?

Words say a great deal about how we view others and their place in the world. Quite rightly language changes as we become more aware - that's cause for celebration in my book.

Deciduousblonde · 18/01/2011 09:44

Me too Riven Grin

Although I don't mind 'the norm' so much, as this has a different meaning IMO. 'Normal' is just gross.

seeker · 18/01/2011 09:48

It's political correctness gone mad - what's wrong with "normal" and "cripple"? Seems to cover it all.

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TrillianAstra · 18/01/2011 09:53

You might like the acronym UTGSN if you are going to post in AIBU.

^AIBU to think... blah blah blah.... children doing something.... blah blah blah.... shouldn't do it... blah blah blah.... parents should teach them/keep them under control.... blah blah blah

Unless They've Got Special Needs.^

Seriously, you'll need it. Otherwise the responses will be full of 'you'd think my DS was being naughty but actually he has ' and you'll want to scream that you didn't mean in special cases, you meant "normal" children, but you know that you can't use the word "normal" and it all gets very stressful.

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fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 18/01/2011 09:59

I can't actually understand why people don't get why calling my child "not normal" is offensive.

IhateSunday · 18/01/2011 10:00

Seeker that's disgusting.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 18/01/2011 10:01

i don't think seeker was being entirely serious.

Well, I hope not anyway.

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