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To wonder how much in restaurants is actually made from scratch

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MsKLo · 14/01/2011 18:30

Have had quite a few dissapointing outings to all different kinds of restaurants the past few months and a friend told me they were talking to a catering supplier who said that lots of restaurants get thing in made already and frozen roast potatoes are especially popular etc

Do many restaurants do this? Doesn't anyone peel ans roast potatoes or thick cut 'homemade' Chips anymore? Is that cottage pie home-made or bought in?!

I just want to go to a nice restaurant or pub and have nic foooooood!

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ilovecrisps · 15/01/2011 14:42

There is a very chi chi cafe in my part of SW London won some award for being family friendly or good or something.
I went there when it just opened a few yrs ago and wanted something cheap I could share with dc.
I was pretty Shock about the prices but chose a typical english carbohydrate food the cafe is named after thinking for £2.99 or whatever there is bound to be 2 and we can share.....

Sure enough 1 arived so we split it and I was a bit disappointed!

I was however even more disappointed to see someone arrive with about 12 packets of the things from the Sainsburys value range (33pish/pack if I remember rightly) in a carrier bag.

I don't go there anymore.

It and similar local cafes make a lot of noise about their locally made cupcakes (at £1.99 each I can ignore!)

edam · 15/01/2011 14:51

Chef friend of mine tells me Pizza Express kids' pasta dishes are bought in. Pizza may be from scratch, carbonara isn't - which makes me wonder about the grown up stuff.

catinthehat2 · 15/01/2011 15:27

What gets me is that a local large upmarket 5* country hotel HAS to have local waiting staff.
Those staff know full well about the Sainsbury's value long life orange juice served at breakfast.
And everyone else round here does as well now.
Which is why I've never bothered to show up at their very highly priced restaurants for any other meal.

How can it make good business sense to do that sort of thing?

shewasashowgirl · 15/01/2011 15:34

Fridays used to prep all their own food from sauces to guacamole freshly made on site in the morning but I don't know if they still do.

Most high street chains will buy in though mainly because they are brands and consistency is the key to success. It doesn't always mean it's crap though. Restaurants can obviously buy in total rubbish but their are also excellent sauce suppliers out there delivering to some chains.

I think one of the better chains is Strada and new comers like Jamie's Italian. But independents are normally better at making all their own food

fluffygal · 15/01/2011 15:46

I used to work at TGI Fridays,Jack Daniels sauce comes in a bag. Not sure about the other sauces. Chefs there were pretty good though.

Worked in Harvester too and everything is either microwaved, deep fat fried or done on the grill.

midnightexpress · 15/01/2011 15:50

I was watching 'Baking Made Easy' the other day and Lorraine Pascale reckoned that all the restaurants she has worked in (and I assume she's not talking Pizza Express) bought in all their pastry. Shock

Wasn't there also some hoo-ha about Gordon Ramsay buying stuff in, or at least it not being cooked on the premises?

bellavita · 15/01/2011 15:56

I used to work in a village pub and all their food was made from scratch. They had a chap that brought the fish in that was caught early that morning and used a local farmer for meat.

They also used the best ingredients ie. napolina tomatoes instead of own supermarket brand or lower, nice butter, proper pastry made too for the meat pies. Proper homemade soups using bones from other dishes that they had made. All the deserts are homemade and gorgeous.

falsemessageoflethargy · 15/01/2011 16:03

We have a good local restaurant which is pricey but you can tell that most things are made on site.

Otherwise theres an Italian restaurant in Wimbledon - Al Forno where the pizzas are amazing and obviously all cooked there - ditto lots of japanese places where you can see the sushi chef at work.

Otherwise I assume its all heated - we have the same rule as lots of others - if it isnt any better than I can do then we dont eat there. ie wetherspoons, cafe rouge etc.

PartialToACupOfMilo · 15/01/2011 16:57

I agree to a point that you need to see the chefs at work, have an excellent response to adapting dishes or unfortunately pay through the nose to know that you are getting home cooked food - in general.

However, my dh is a chef for a small chain of hotels (there's 5 of them, I think). Each restaurant used to design their own menu and they changed frequently depending on what was available locally. They now have a chain-wide menu and you would be forgiven for thinking that is therefore all bought in. But actually everything is still cooked from scratch.

You can't see the chefs at work there (though you can sometimes hear them in the restaurant Blush), but they are fairly accommodating to requests for alternatives and you don't have to quite pay through the nose - the exception that proves the rule Grin

PS - Took 13 month old to Wagamamas a few weeks ago - she loved it - and she spent the whole time pointing and grinning at the chefs. Wonder if she thought daddy was about to make an appearance... !

soopermum1 · 15/01/2011 17:00

Strada use frozen pizza bases (friend lives above a restaurant and saw the deliveries one day.

falsemessageoflethargy · 15/01/2011 17:52

Patial - thats true about wagamamas actually - the sauces must be bulk made and the veg prechopped but otherwise is that it? Or is every individual portion delivered and bunged in a wok?

giveitago · 15/01/2011 18:07

DH is in the industry - their pizza dough is made fresh every day. Made in front of customers. Bread also made in house if remember correctly.

Chips are bought in though.

PassionKiss · 15/01/2011 18:14

In my Dh's pub, very nearly all the food is cooked from scratch including stocks etc. There are a few exceptions though:
Things like ice cream and cheese are bought in from local suppliers.
The chips are bought pre cut but then cooked on site (you have to weigh up how much it would cost to have someone peeling potatoes all day v. buying them in)
The waffles on the dessert menu are bought in and they are consistently the most popular dessert on the menu!!

MsKLo · 15/01/2011 18:19

What about Chinese and indian restaurants? I fin the quality of food appalling in a lot of them

Especially the meat

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CrispyTheCrisp · 15/01/2011 18:29

I used to work in Happy Eater where the omlettes came in frozen and were microwaved. Customers did have a problem understanding quite why they couldn't have a plain omelette rather than cheese & tomato. They were actually quite tasty Grin

PartialToACupOfMilo · 15/01/2011 20:42

Frozen omelettes Confused

Falsemessage - I actually asked the waiter about the noodles in wagamamas, because we've been giving dd spaghetti and other pasta shapes for months and although everybody says baby love pasta, she's surprisingly picky... Anyway she wolfed down an entire kid's portion of noodles together with some chicken (which she also 'doesn't like' at home}. He told me they cook all of the noddles in the morning, dunk them in cold water then reheat when ordered. (When I told dh, he just said, yeah, of course, what else could they do? Hmm) And in the kids' portions that's it, they're served with nothing else on them; sauce is on the side.

Hope dd doesn't fancy the chicken katsu though, I WILL NOT share however much I love her Grin

MrsCreamcake · 15/01/2011 21:19

I manage a Wetherspoons and we have an army of chefs expertly cooking everything from scratch.......

Er ok maybe not but if your going anywhere that charges £6.99 and can deliver your meal in under 10 minutes its bound to be frozen/chilled 'ready meals'

We cook our steaks and thats about it Wink

marriednotdead · 15/01/2011 22:00

The whole consistency across chains theory doesn't always add up.

Me and a friend meet up at our local Wetherspoons for a gossip sometimes. They microwave quite a nice lasagne Grin

The same lasagne at another Wetherspoons further away was vile.

Perhaps they have different microwaves.

charliesmommy · 15/01/2011 22:09

All chains will use pre-prepared food.. because it has to look and taste consistent across all their branches.

You cant really call Wetherspoons a restaurant either.. its a pub!..

There is a restaurant in Battersea called Tom Ilic which cooks absolutely everything from scratch and is fabulous so long as you arent veggie ..

emmanana · 29/01/2011 11:41

About 10 years ago, I took over running a bar with a friend, and had several catering otions we could go down, as the place had a full kitchen, albeit with v. old equipment.

One of the reps from one of the large catering companies came for a meeting, and told us all we needed to produce an extensive menu was a bank of high speed microwaves, a couple of toasters and a couple of deep fat fryers. There is no end to the items you can buy prepacked/cooked. Even poached eggs could be delivered vacuum packed (yuk)and then whacked in the microwave. You didn't even have to think about timings as each product came with a coloured sticker, and you just pressed the said colour button on the control panel.
They could even supply china for you to plonk the frozen pies in, they were a perfect fit, and the last minutes of cooking involved a blast for the inbuilt convector to brown/crisp them. The rep said that if a touch of sauce leaked from the pie onto the china, don't wipe it away, as it gave the illusion of it being 'home-cooked'.
So if someone came in and ordered pie, chips and peas, you would wack the pie in one oven, the sachet of peas in another, and a sachet of chips in the deep fat fryer.
I now work in a different career, and my office in central London looks over a busy 'eating' street. When I'm in work early at 7.30 or so I see all the catering companies delivering to the major chains, and pubs advertising 'home cooked' food.
Word of advice for anyone visiting central London, don't automatically go for one of the chains. Like a lot of us looking in Lidls/Aldi our brains are pre programmed to look for brands we know. Don't dismiss or look over little restaurants, even if the front may look a little jaded, and there is not an expanse of sparkly plate glass (i.e the chains)
If they are surviving in an area awash with chains, then the likelehood is that they are a favourite with locals.
I'm often stopped in the street to ask where the nearest Pizza Express is - I always point people in the direction of the local Italian. They have been there 40 years and cannot be beaten. Independents are more often than not run by the owners, who actually care that customers come back. They have a stake in a business and often have family working there. Unlike managers in a chain, who despite taking a pride in their work, ultimately have no stake in the future health of the establishment, so may not be quite so customer driven.
And if anyone would like recommendations for fab restuarants in Soho, London W1, please message me. There are plenty of hidden gems at the same price or less than the chains, and the food is normally divine.

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