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Right, I have got used to this now, and have quickly developed a thick skin....

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Catnao · 13/01/2011 19:22

Am I being unreasonable to have read the threads in "Education - Gifted and Talented", and think that parents on there, for the most part, have missed the point, and think "gifted and talented" means academically bright?

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Catnao · 13/01/2011 22:32

This was before A star grades existed - he'd have got them if he could, the bastard. Wink

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webwiz · 13/01/2011 22:41

Well if that's your criteria Catnao then its not surprising that you haven't found any kids to measure up to it Smile

Catnao · 13/01/2011 22:46

I haven't got a chip on my shoulder. Much. Wink

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PixieOnaLeaf · 13/01/2011 22:50

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comeandseetallulah · 13/01/2011 22:50

criterion- single, criteria -plural, would want my childrens primary teachers to know this

webwiz · 13/01/2011 22:55

I'm not a teacher comeandsetallulah and I was referring all the things in Catnao's post about her brother so it was plural Hmm

comeandseetallulah · 13/01/2011 22:56

was directed at catnao, sorry

Cleofartra · 13/01/2011 22:58

Oh please don't anyone say it's all shite.

My 11 year old dd has just been identified as 'gifted and talented' in music and drama. Was v. pleased. Much nicer than the certificate she got for 'being the biggest drama queen in year 6' that she got when she left primary.

Was so hoping it would mean that the music teacher at school would give her a bit more time and attention.

Catnao · 13/01/2011 22:59

Tee hee - I had a go at criterion...at least I knew there was a difference, although I actually wrote "criterium," or some such nonsense spelling I think....

I think that if a school has not got a staff which (that? ) can provide for kids achieving Y7 goals in primary, then that's a bit weird/worrying.

Still think that kids in Reception being able to do Y2 maths are not "gifted" or "talented". just bright.

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mumbar · 13/01/2011 23:04

top 10% in a class sounds a lot but is only about 3 pupils! How do you pick those when theres probably 5/6 who have NC levels above average - and thats all they are above average.

I discovered this week my DS 6.4 (aug baby) and in year 2 is G and T at not working hard! Apparently he is a 2C at Maths and target is 2B for SATS. So he does a practice paper gets 28/30 and a clear 2A - already!!

Lazy git he is. Wink

I agree a gist or talent is xomething natural (in most cases) not something learnt - but something that with a lot of hard work and dedication you can becme refined in.

FreudianSlipIntoMyLaptop · 13/01/2011 23:05

I confess some of the threads do make me laugh.

I thought the whole list thingy had been scrapped anyway.

Catnao · 13/01/2011 23:06

So do I - I would prob have been considerd gifted and talented at primary these days - if it weren't for that pesky twin, my parents might have been gloating about me!

But I WASN'T, and am not!

I was a bright Primary child, who was hot housed by teacher/GP parents to get into a good university, from which I got an average degree.

My dad would KILL me about the critria thing though - he teached Classics! ;)

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Catnao · 13/01/2011 23:07

X posts.
And critria? It's getting worse!

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Catnao · 13/01/2011 23:08

Oh, dear God - considerd was a TYPO...

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Catnao · 13/01/2011 23:08

And teached....

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Catnao · 13/01/2011 23:09

i carnt rite or spel init

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mumbar · 13/01/2011 23:13

Thats what I meant Pixie but probably didn't explain very well. If you have to pick the top 3 for example how do you do it? Lots of my teacher friends have pupils in their class who are above avereage - 5/6 at least so how do you differentiate out of those the top 3? - genuinly interested.

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ghostlysilvershred · 13/01/2011 23:18

Do you show your disdain for the more academic kids in your class in real life too? I know you're saying this is about the parents in that forum on MN, but I'm wondering... I can smell that chip from here I think; pass the salt and sauce Wink.

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Catnao · 13/01/2011 23:21

If, (and I realise that my previous posts have destroyed any credibility I may once have had), a child can be differentiated for without provision over and above that which the class teacher can provide - then they are not exceptional.

My child is gifted and (I STILL don't get that word or the difference between...)talented if the are EXCEPTIONAL.

At anything.

Not because they could read when they were two and a half.

I could. I am not gifted OR talented.

You know this because I have to be a teacher. Wink

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Catnao · 13/01/2011 23:23

Ghostlysivershred - no.
I love the bright ones.
They make my life easy and fun.

I still don't think I've got any that need a REGISTER. Yet.

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