to shudder when I hear DS1's teacher speak

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I've been to see DS1's yr5 teacher this afternoon and had a generally good meeting.

I have no problem at all with her as a teacher and DS1 is thriving in her class, but her spoken grammar is dreadful.

TBH, DS1 is never going to have perfect Queen's English, having the parents he does and living where we do, but this is from a teacher. I'm more than capable of dropping in an "ain't" or dropping an "H", but do speak properly (enough) in a professional situation.

She doesn't seem able to keep her speach in check. She has a particular problem with done instead if did and during our short meeting used it several times. e.g "DS1 done well in Science today." "The whole class done Maths yesterday afternoon"

AIBU?

And I'm from South London! I still speak properly.

I now live and work in Leeds. I find it is worse up here.

I hate this when I hear colleagues using bad grammar in school.

I have no problem with local dialect or my own native broad Scots which many people use but although my own parents (and grandparent) use/used this form of speech they never used bad grammar. They just used old Scots words.

They can spell properly too!!

One of my pet hates is "pacifically" instead of "specifically".

Or people making up words like "jamp" instead of using "jumped"!!

Hey! I'm from South London and I don't speak like that!

I was serious when I said that I would be looking for another school.

Vall, you and I have so much in common posh

NadiaWadia As I recall both Katie Price and that other one who's name currently eludes me (she had her teeth done, but was otherwise quite pleased not to have had any surgery) Oh, Jodie Marsh.

As far as I recall they both have excellent A-levels. And voices and accents like fingernails on a chalkboard.

It might be irritating, OP. I imagine it would. But there are worse things in the world, and as long as she's otherwise OK, it's not worth making a fuss of.

Maybe you and some of the other schoolgaters can go together and buy her a few elocution lessons at the end of term :P

Did/done is (one of) my pet hates ... DS used to say it all the time: every time he said done when he meant did was met with my immediate response of "did" ... it took about 3 years but we got there in the end.

Is it not an Essex thing......

.........everyone of my acquaintance who has problems with done/did is from there.

COI: strongly accented but grammatically correct (most of the time)

Has Katie Price really got any good A-levels? This comes as a surprise to me.

Ick. That would piss me right off.

But if (and that's a big if) in every other way they were a fab teacher I would put up with it - there are more important things to worry about such as inspiring the children to better things (say if they are in an area with poor outcomes)

bet she is from wiltshire

Maybe she is dumming down so the parents will understand her

Sounds like the teacher has been watching too much Strictly Come Dancing and has been infected with Aleesha Dixon's inability to cope with English grammar...

Pat, I think jamp may be the original preterite of jump, and so may be a relict in some dialects, rather than a "made-up" word.

and James bloody Jordan (and his wife as she's probably picked it up from him!)

No good, I'm going to have to leave this thread if people keep posting about inaccurate grammar of teachers whilst using incorrect spellings.
Or I'll have to put more gin in my tea and mellow out.

My art teacher used to say pacific instead of Specific and I couldn't help myself, I would often correct her. Another pet hate I have is using 'f', instead of 'th'. I know here in the UK its considered part of dialect (I always thought a dialect was a variation of a common language). However, in Australia, where I'm from, its considered a speech impediment. And yes I know Australia's have all sorts of crimes against the English language to their name, but still it grates on me.

vagola, I do hope Goblin's on the gin now...

Or v instead of th.
Iss ve uvr one innit?
Argh!

Bombay Sapphire, how lovely.

Surely this is just dialect?

I think it's reasonable to complain about written language that's incorrect (or in dialect) but surely spoken English is another matter.

(But then, imo, only people who have suffered brain damage speak English 'incorrectly'.)

Aaaaargh

YANBU

Oddly enough, some of the parents that are the most outraged by this are EAL parents.
I've had it pointed out to me that they made sacrifices to come to this country and have their children educated, and expect a high standard of English from the educators.

I think that "done" as 1st pers sing pret is a dialect form in many areas, but I think it's not unreasonable to expect written and spoken standard /standard Scottish or Welsh English (not RP) in English language schools, so that children grow up "bilingual" (bidialectal, I suppose) in their own dialect and SE. This is nothing to do with accent, however.

It's difficult to teach a child to spell and write standard English if their spoken phonics and grammar do't support their written literacy.
Not impossible, but tricky. Although now textspeak exists, perhaps standard will become an extinct offshoot for many.

Ah, the done did was were problem. I think it is common in Essex, Hertfordshire, and Kent. I hate it too.