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To think CSA should leave our tax credits alone.

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santascupcakes · 08/01/2011 18:07

Dh lost his job and he was previously paying £60 via CSA a week to ex.

Told CSA and they asked about our tax credits. I work and we get £198 which includes tax credits for 4 children, working tax and disability element for 2 children.

They said thats OK you can now pay us £27 a week!! Shock

How is that right. She must get her own tax credits!!

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narkypuffin · 08/01/2011 19:14

That's pretty much what the CSA do Dooin Tax credits are supposed to top up a family's income so they are above the poverty line. The CSA regards them as fair game. I assumed that the OP's DH was claiming JSA which would ofset the loss of tax credits. He isn't.

spidookly · 08/01/2011 19:14

So the OP's family of 6, including 2 disabled children have lost an entire salary, but sympathy lies with a woman losing £33 a week maintenance for a child she hid from its father for years?

Wow

no op, it's not fair. The whole situation stinks.

All this bollocks about how this child "must not go without". ALL his children are going to go without now that he has lost his job. None is more important than the others. Taking money paid out to another woman to keep her children off the breadline is ridiculous.

This kind of pernicious crap incentivises people with children from a previous relationship to keep their new relationship unofficial.

Fair would be that he pays what he would pay if the OP wasn't in the picture.

ENormaSnob · 08/01/2011 19:21

What spidookly said.

Btw you can claim jsa even if the partner is in work. Think it's contributions based?

Casmama · 08/01/2011 19:28

I agree with others who have said that your dh should sign on and should be entitled to contribution based job seekers allowance if he has worked for the last few years. It is about £65 a week, paid fortnightly for 26 weeks and requires attending the job centre once a fortnight

TheMeow · 08/01/2011 19:33

My dad tells the CSA he can't work so my mum only gets £5 per week for my brother, yet my dad is married to a lady who is employed, earning a good wage and they have 2 children together.

Why aren't the csa making him pay £27 per week for my brother? They told us his new wife's income can't be included.

It seems it's one rule for one family and another for everyone else.

ENormaSnob · 08/01/2011 19:35

Themeow, I thought that was the case too.

StewieGriffinsMom · 08/01/2011 19:37

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huddspur · 08/01/2011 19:37

I appreciate that you might not like it but its part and parcel of being married to this man I'm afraid

Mists · 08/01/2011 19:42

I think that discrepancy depends on how long the situation has been ongoing.

CSA 1 and CSA 2 are completely different apparently. Might be worth a Google.

I used to get £1.65 per week for DD Hmm but now that exH is a "student" at "university" it's nada.

ENormaSnob · 08/01/2011 19:44

Isn't ctc for the children though?

My ex recently had a new baby and will get tc but I certainly don't expect him to increase his payments to our ds because of it. That money is for his baby and partner.

StewieGriffinsMom · 08/01/2011 19:46

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onadietcokebreak · 08/01/2011 19:47

Think Csa can only take half the working tax credits amount into account when assessing liability.

Sounds like it's an incorrect assessment. You need to ask for an explanation, then appeal

Your partner need to apply for contribution based JSA and Csa will deduct £5 flat rate maintenance

IMO tax credits shouldn't be used to assess maintenance. It's suppose to raise families income to a certain level.

santascupcakes · 08/01/2011 19:57

"We work out child maintenance by applying one of four rates to the non-resident parent's income. Income is earnings, money from an occupational or personal pension, and tax credits"
Quote CSA website.

They do not take WTC only the tax credits and the extra tax credits we get for disabiity as this also falls under tax credits.

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onadietcokebreak · 08/01/2011 20:15

read this

susiedaisy · 08/01/2011 20:28

she will get her own tax credits but they will not take that into consideration when working out the CM from an ex, she will be entitled to tax credits even if she was receiving alot of CM, when i applied for child tax credits and working tax credits they wanted to know what my income was excluding CM they werent interested in that , just what my income was,

prettyfly1 · 08/01/2011 20:31

excuse me but HE chose to have children with HIS ex why should SHE have to pay for them? OP YANBU. Go and visit step parents.

BaroqueAroundTheClock · 08/01/2011 20:37

"Dooin she is not down on money trust me."

eh? If the payments have reduced from £60 to £27 then she's (and his child) nearly £150 a month down on money Confused

spidookly · 08/01/2011 20:52

"They don't count spousal income from employment but they do count family-income from tax credits."

That's fucking ridiculous.

What is the point of paying benefits to one woman to care for her children and then taking it off her so her husband can give the money to another child?

If this other child now needs benefits because his father has lost his job, then that should be dealt with.

Taking the OP's benefits away from her to pay for somebody else's (non-means tested) benefits is massively unfair and stupid.

The whole tax credit system is utter bullshit anyway. It's a massive tax-payer subsidy of companies that refuse to pay a living wage.

huddspur · 08/01/2011 20:59

I think they count tax credits because they are awarded to both the man and the woman so that money is his as well.

onadietcokebreak · 08/01/2011 21:07

Has any one actually read my link?

StewieGriffinsMom · 08/01/2011 21:12

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onadietcokebreak · 08/01/2011 21:17

Thanks. I can't copy on iPod.

Doesn't that make you think Assessment is wrong as OP is the higher earner.

StewieGriffinsMom · 08/01/2011 21:28

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santascupcakes · 08/01/2011 21:29

They didn't use my woking tax bit as It is paid to me for my earnings. They only used our tax credits as we are both named on them.

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