...AIBU to ... Throwing a sickie and taking 2 weeks holiday????

[troisgarcons]

....on the back of this thread ....

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/1118520-To-think-billboard-adverts-threatening-parents-about-removing-their-children-for-a-holiday-in-term-time-are-a-bit-well-pathetic

....after all ..... why should I hypothetically prepare lessons if the parents want to bog off on a cheapo deal - I get paid shite too and I don't get the luxury of having out-of-season holidays ...... I barely get a free evening because I'm marking and planning - and catching up on absentees, setting work for catch up - as are all but 2 weeks of my annual leave.

So what would you say if your kids teacher was so goddamed rude as to bugger off on holiday ???

stop whining.you went into vocational public sector you knew the t&c.and you are paid to turn up

if parents dont turn up they get reprimand
if you dont turn up you get disciplined

If you think graduates earn 2-3 times more than 22k your living in la la land. There are not enough jobs and it's an employers Market Ok maybe a few are lucky but most are entering the jobs Market for the same salary as a NQT and are not getting 12 weeks holiday to boot!

YANBU

I love that people are annoyed at a teacher even making a joke about this.

You're definitely not doing it right if you only relax for 2 weeks! Sort your time management out woman. I'm a senior teacher and I do piss all in the hols, maybe a week max in the summer, and half a day or so in every other break. You only work for around 6 weeks before taking a week off! News flash NQT - you're working for the students, they are your clients and you do your best for them. But raising them is the parents' job and anyone who thinks that a 2 week holiday isn't nicer than being in school is bonkers and possibly work-obsessed.

/ rant

Comparing like for like with approx 30 of my fellow graduates....I am by far the lowest earner as are most of my teaching colleagues by a long way so I do happen to know what I am talking about (have also taken a 40% pay cut to do this job so it's hardly my imagination, I was earning less than most fellow graduates even prior to that as I was in the public sector). Wish I was living in lala land though at times, life would be so much easier...

OP, you just reminded me why I didn't like so many of the teachers when I was at school.

You CHOSE to be a teacher and are paid to turn up. So what if a parent chooses to take their child out of school - you don't own their child and it's up to them.

If you take it personally then you're a bit weird.

I have to agree with herbieta - I will take my boys out of school as and when I need to during term time, within reason for a 1 or 2 week holiday. The rest of the time they are there and anytime Ive done so, theyve caught up.

Spending quality time together on an affordable holiday every year is important to us all and why should I be penailsied for example because I live in Scotland where flight supplemets can be an incredible £200 EXTRA per person on top of the holiday price just to fly in our school holidays? Dont think so!

If you want to throw a sickie and not be in class for a fortnight for a cheap holiday - go ahead, wouldnt bother me, 8 year old was taught by a different teacher when his was off sick for a month, the world didnt come to an end.

MissHellToe - wish you'd been one of my teachers!

Read the OP - I'm not a teacher - I put a hypothetical scenario.

And, TBH, I wouldnt get out of bed for 22K, in London, with a graduate loan mill stone round my neck, having to deal with social misfits all day .

I'm never sure whether its the kids or the parents that cause teachers to leave the profession within 5 years - mind you - reading this place - I can hazard a guess why

PenGuin. I don't mean to offend you my comments are more directed to the op than others on the thread It irritates me when teachers moan about how hard life is. I'm sure it's a challenging job but my main point is so are many others in the public sector and they don't get that amount of holiday and often have to work bank hols, Christmas day etc. When the last time a teacher you knew worked Christmas day? Anyways I'm not trying to wind you up personally honest, just playing devils advocate.

"why should I be penailsied for example because I live in Scotland"

PMSL :o

Who twisted your arm to live in Scotland?

I must be work obsessed as I do much more than that misshelltoe!

The way I see it is that teachers are paid over the year, work is not just limited to school days. I also usually need to work at some point of the weekend to plan or mark.

We had a snow day this year, I worked from home. Some parents complained as they saw teachers christmas shopping! I'm really not surprised I would have done too!

However, my dh is not a teacher, he often works late or needs to take client calls in the evening or the weekend. It's all relative.

He is also restricted to what hols he takes due to busy periods and working abroad. So between the two of us...nightmare!

Other people can only take hols at a certain time too. Not sure if op is being tongue in cheek or not and I'm rambling!

I know how hard other professions in the public sector work and don't think teaching is comparable.. Don't even get me started on the Armed Forces who are massively overworked and underpaid compared to their lifestyle/working hours/commitments. I would never dare moan about teaching pay and conditions compared to theirs. I'm comparing teachers with the other 'traditional' jobs undertaken by graduates - in my case interpreters/translators/ consultants/private education/industry etc.

Anyway I'm off to bed after a knackering day being abused by stroppy 15 year old and 2 sets of parents. But I appreciate that that is my choice and I am not moaning...Have fun playing Devil's Advocate!

You were hypothetically preparing lessons, not hypothetically being a teacher - try reading your own OP.

haha youre pants bit onfire on you talk keech

saying "because I'm marking and planning - and catching up on absentees" is suggestive of being teacher.

keech lol