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To be feeling llike a mug regarding martial arts instructer? (LONG)

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MrsMug · 07/01/2011 09:52

Had to name change because don't particularly want said instructor coming across my name associated with this post!!

But I'm wondering if I'm being unreasonable/silly here because EVERYONE is saying I'm a mug for putting up with this and I'm starting to wonder if they're right.

My son joined a martial arts class three years ago and it was alright at first but after a bit we started to feel a little pressured to attend competitions etc. Apart from that the class seemed to be totally centered around instructors son who was only 7 at the time. It was like "everyone, watch L, look how he does this, it's amazing ..... L will now demonstrate a kata for us ..... " etc etc and the poor lad was put in the spotlight throughout the whole class. If he did anything wrong, the instructor would shout at him for embarrassing him, making him cry etc. His daughter (11 at the time) would often be in tears after he ridiculed her, make her look silly and shouting at her because she wasn't as amazing as her brother etc. The whole class used to feel really uncomfortable. Then as his son got older, he became quite arrogent and started calling my son a wuss and a pansy etc, obviously copying off his dad and even started punching him and kicking him randomly. His father would never tell him off unless it was done in front of everyone then he made a point of saying something but it was mainly treat like a huge joke "oh look, L has beaten up D again and he's two years younger!" Hmm Then we started getting pressured into going to competitions all the time. He didn't drive so I took his son from Manchester to Newcastle and he didn't even offer any petrol money or anything.
So in the end my son gave it up but I'd started by this time and became quite engrossed in it. I carried on with it but the class hasn't changed much. His son became a black belt at the age of 10 Hmm and is now used to "teach". His son gets to run the warm ups which usually involve running around, picking each other up and basically doing stuff that no self-respecting adult would normally do and then he's used to actually teach sometimes meaning us adults are being "taught" by a cockly 11 year old.

Its not just the class though, I got pressured into volunteering for competition staff and the one time I couldn't make it because I was working, he went in a strop, told the head organiser that I WOULD be doing it (which then made it worse when I had to explain to him that I couldn't) and basically made a point of letting me know how I'd let everyone down.

He ignores any messages I send him unless it benefits him to reply. (For instance if I send him a message saying "When does training start after christmas?" he'll ignore it. If I sent him one saying "I can do the next competition" he'll reply with "excellent! see you there! :-) )"

He slags people off to the class if they're not there, for instance before christmas I couldn't train very often and I heard he'd said to the entire class "oh well, Mrs Mug hasn't bothered showing up again, and she thinks she's going to be grading next year?!" WTF????

I'm due to start again on Monday but I don't know if I can be arsed with it anymore.

I'm basically paying for 2 hours in which half of that involves watching his son "demonstrate"

OP posts:
LittleWhiteSnowWolf · 07/01/2011 10:59

You are paying for this man to bully you.
Leave. Just leave. You don't need to apologise to him or pay him or anything, just leave.

SeaTrek · 07/01/2011 11:01

I really don't think it is a bad thing that the instructor will find out that you have joined another club.

It is HIS poor behaviour that has lead you to want to leave his group. If he asks you, then you can tell him the reason why you left. You owe him nothing. You may well find when you join the femaale led group that it is not surpise to them...

Particles · 07/01/2011 11:02

My father used to be a martial arts instructor. His class was very much like this. Maybe it does something strange to people??

Threaders · 07/01/2011 11:03

It really isn't that hard to just NOT GO...

Manchester is full to the brim with good martial arts schools, classes, and instructors. Have a look around - even if you change associations, the rules and styles don't vary that much so you would soon adapt.

This guy is obviously a total twat - don't give him any more of your money, because he's clearly not interested in teaching you or anyone other than his son anything at all

RealityIsShaggingWithIntent · 07/01/2011 11:03

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SnotandBothered · 07/01/2011 11:08

Not only would I quit. I would tell the instructor exactly why. It will be hard to be confrontational but you will feel so pleased afterwards and, frankly, he should be told.

If you can't face telling him, do a kind of resignation letter explaining your reasons.

GwendolineMaryLacey · 07/01/2011 11:30

I can't believe you are even having to ask. Are you mad? I don't know much about it, is there some sort of ruling body that you can contact. This guy is a fuckwit and shouldn't be teaching anyone.

I would send him a letter and copy in whoever needed to be copied in.

lucky1979 · 07/01/2011 11:34

Forget the instructor, why are you letting a 10 year old make a fool of you? Why are the other adults in the class? I can't imagine a situation where adults let a 10 year old boss them around and make them do stupid things for his own entertainment, that's just bizarre.

BonzoDooDah · 07/01/2011 11:46

Wot SnotandBothereed said.
WTF? Why do you een need to ask us? No WAY I'd be paying for any class with an 11yo teaching me - unless it was piano lessons from Mozart himself!
And ye s- if there is a governing body for the sport (does he have qualifications) I'd be reporting him to them.

PooMachine · 07/01/2011 11:48

what's spider-man???

DanceInTheDark · 07/01/2011 11:50

Where in Manchester are ou? There are 3 different locations and classes in my area that i know of. Google will bring up many more.

Butterbur · 07/01/2011 11:55

I belong to a middle sized karate club. All the instructors are polite and of an unassuming demeanour. If they are egotistical, it is well concealed. The club sets great store by its etiquette, and the senior instructor specifically does not want it to become a cult of personalities.

To me this seems the proper way for a martial arts club to be run. I would just leave your current one. People leave all the time, and unless they have been long term and senior members, tell no-one why.

jjuice · 07/01/2011 12:00

Oh you def need to go find another class!
I have been doing Jujitsu in Oldham now for 2 years...I joined as a deal with my daughter so she would go.
Our club couldn't be further away from yours if we tried.
There is respect for the sensei but that does not make them unapproachable...on the contrary we all go out a couple of times a year (black belt gradings / christmas) and often go to the pub after training for a soft drink and a wind down.
No bullying is allowed and is stamped out immediatly.
We have gradings every 3 - 6 months where you demonstrate to the sensei that you have learnt everything on your belt...but there is no pressure....if you dont feel ready you wait til the next gradings night. Although most people want to get to the next belt.
Both my kids go and both love it. I help out with the kids who train before the adults and find it actually helps me with my revision and perfecting my technique...although again no pressure.
Message me if you want details of the club Smile

jjuice · 07/01/2011 12:00

Oh you def need to go find another class!
I have been doing Jujitsu in Oldham now for 2 years...I joined as a deal with my daughter so she would go.
Our club couldn't be further away from yours if we tried.
There is respect for the sensei but that does not make them unapproachable...on the contrary we all go out a couple of times a year (black belt gradings / christmas) and often go to the pub after training for a soft drink and a wind down.
No bullying is allowed and is stamped out immediatly.
We have gradings every 3 - 6 months where you demonstrate to the sensei that you have learnt everything on your belt...but there is no pressure....if you dont feel ready you wait til the next gradings night. Although most people want to get to the next belt.
Both my kids go and both love it. I help out with the kids who train before the adults and find it actually helps me with my revision and perfecting my technique...although again no pressure.
Message me if you want details of the club Smile

systemsaddict · 07/01/2011 12:04

This Is Bonkers. He sounds like the 'evil' sensei out of the Karate Kid. Martial arts is not supposed to be like this, it is supposed to be all based on respect. Don't take any more crap from this idiot and find another club, there are loads around.

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