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AIBU to be annoyed at how smug this couple seem (DM warning)

113 replies

GreatBallsOfFluff · 07/01/2011 09:19

here

I really do admire the effort that they have put in, and I'm all for being green and recycling as much as possible but there are just a few things in the article that really annoy me.

'After what we have achieved this year I don't know how much lower we can go with our rubbish disposal,' said Mrs Strauss.

and the bit about them speaking to the Council to suggest ways in which recycling facilities can be improved. I do try my best with recycling but I don't think I could ever get my landfill down to just one bag a year, and if I ever did get to that point then I would sit quietly proud of myself rather than shout about it to the world.

OP posts:
hobbgoblin · 08/01/2011 16:06

she must have a mooncup
that woman looks a little emaciated - maybe they didn't actually eat at all last year

greenlotus · 08/01/2011 16:44

MZW welcome to MN (unless you are already a regular but then you'd probably have be a Mooncup user).

thanks for your thoughtful answers

What are your top tips for the cash and time poor? How do you train yourself to avoid waste/disposable things coming into the house in the first place?

poshsinglemum · 08/01/2011 16:52

YABU- I think that it's a really good example. It did make me feel really guily about the amount of crap that I throw away but at least someone's doing something about the environment.

MyZeroWaste · 08/01/2011 18:16

Hi greenlotus

What are your top tips for the cash and time poor?

I would say the first thing is to be honest about the amount of food you waste. It's interesting that whenever I talk about it people say "I don't really waste much food" but the reality is different! Not because people lie but because we are so used to throwing stuff away without thinking that we don't even realise. So maybe spend a week putting food waste in one particular place and spend a moment taking an honest look at what is going in there.

Here we don't have 'leftovers', we have 'ingredients' :D So getting creative in the kitchen is a great way to save cash and it doesn't mean you have to be standing in your piny for 4 hours a night; you can chuck leftover veggies in a slow cooker and leave it to take care of itself for a few hours or whizz things up in a blender and voila - soup!

The other area where you can create waste and waste money at the same time is falling for the BOGOF offers. It's great on things that keep, but on fresh foods people usually end up throwing things out, so my advice, as boring as it may sound is to write a shopping list, planning it around the foods you already have in your 'fridge, fruit bowl and veg rack and stick to the list...

And then there are the 'best before' dates; do we really need them? It's a bit of a contenscious issue and I'm not about to advocate eating gone off meat, but don't just throw things out because they have reached their best before date, use your eyes, nose and tentative sense of taste to see if that food can be used.

I know all of these ideas focus on food waste, but that is the biggest area of waste in most households.

Another idea is with household cleaning products - do we really need one product to clean our floor, another for our work surfaces and yet another to shine the sink? If you look at the ingredients you'll find that most products are the same, just with different ratios of ingredients. Stick to one multi purpose product which does the job and ditch the rest (or make your own if you're really green; I'm a big fan of baking soda and white vinegar for cleaning and for using micro fiber cloths which you only need water with).

Another suggestion is to swap disposable options for reusable - kitchen towel is a classic example; use cloths instead and save yourself some money.

How do you train yourself to avoid waste/disposable things coming into the house in the first place?

It's all about baby steps. We've been doing this for 2 1/2 years and our success has come from focusing on one thing at a time. And I always point out that this is not about a deprivation lifestyle or being a martyr it's just about making conscious decisions about what you buy. We all have things we feel we can't live without and it's good not to get too hung up on things like that or to beat yourself up, but to focus on the things you feel you CAN do and to celebrate those instead.

We made heaps of mistakes in the first few months, and we still make them, (myzerowaste.com/2009/10/mrs-greens-confession/ and myzerowaste.com/2008/06/its-been-a-funny-kind-of-day/) but like anything in life you learn from them, have a laugh at yourself and try and do better next time ;) I found it terribly hard to give up kitchen roll and I still have an emergency roll hidden in the cupboard !! but like most things, it's a new habit to put in place to reach for the cloth instead of a shiny piece of white paper ...

HTH

Figgyrolls · 08/01/2011 20:40

MyZeroWaste - I didn't know you could compost the contents of the hoover! Brilliant, absolutely brilliant! So natural fibres are ok - but what about pet hair - am assuming that and human hair (sorry i have long hair and shed like mad post baby!)are also able to be composted.

And welcome to MN, If it helps having worked for the DM for a while I don't trust what they say about anyone but there we go! I admire what you have been doing and will try and do this myself in the future. Now if only I can get dh to do the same we are laughing, he seems think everything goes in the bin Hmm. If it helps I have converted my 69yo dm! Except for the glass thing - if we had the ability to recycle glass from our homes then we would be ok but driving to do it seems daft especially as we mostly shop via the internet for groceries (convenient - dm doesn't have to carry things, and I don't shlep with toddler and baby!)

blackeyedsusan · 09/01/2011 01:51

We don't send any of our rubbish to landfill

Smug? no! the 2 1/2 binbags we put out every week go to be incinerated in our LA Grin

We recycle as much as possible and tend to buy things with less packaging, but life is too
short and space is too small to wash nappies.

MyZeroWaste · 09/01/2011 08:19

@Figgyrolls Pet hair is fine as well, but in the spring, if you have hedges around your home you can stuff it in there for the birds to use as nesting material ;)

When we started this recycling, my DH was not interested at all - he would throw everything in the bin and thought I was crazy for wanting to try. But then he read an article on how plastics were affecting marine life in the oceans and that really touched him. So sometimes, the most unexpected 'wake up call' can occur ;)

CheerfulYank · 09/01/2011 08:36

Hello and welcome, and for the record I didn't think you sounded smug. :)

Thanks for the tips, I've been looking for ways to reduce.

dockate · 09/01/2011 12:25

YABU. Good on them. At least they're making an effort. I think its a bit sad that they are trying so hard to do the right thing, and doing very well at it, and yet get labelled as 'smug'.

dockate · 09/01/2011 12:30

MyZeroWaste; I posted above before reading your post. I'm very impressed, and think you're doing a great job. I am nowhere near as efficient as you, but trying harder now! Grin Thanks for coming on here to clarify some things to the cynics among us. Really useful info.

saintknickerless · 09/01/2011 12:34

I can't believe that that women used only 1 Venus razorblade in a whole year. She must have given her legs their annual shave before she filled the bag Grin
And why didn't they repair the punctured globe. Love the way they have one bag of rubbish for the whole year and people on here (myself included) are looking for things that could be re-used!

bronze · 09/01/2011 12:42

'that women' sic sounds awfully rude when shes on the thread

saintknickerless · 09/01/2011 12:43

Yes sorry only realised after I posted. Apologies for that and my spelling error.

saintknickerless · 09/01/2011 12:47

In all seriousness though it is an amazing achievement. I use a mooncup so no sanitary waste here, I also use terry nappies and try to get as little packaging as poss from the supermarket (never use bags for fruit and veg etc) - yet I have more rubbish that that every day!

bronze · 09/01/2011 12:56

Sorry wasn't picking you up on your spelling as such, just very wary of getting it wrong to find out thats not what someone meant at all. Mn can be throatjumpery. My spellings appalling a lot of th etime (as is my typing)

It is pretty amazing isn't it. It has given me a kick to try a bit more. We went down and its started going up again recemtly

ZillionChocolate · 09/01/2011 13:04

I'm amazed such feats are possible in Gloucestershire. They seem to recycle the least through the doorstep collection scheme than any other Local Authority I know.

frozenfestiveflo · 09/01/2011 15:58

Ah I think your point zillion about Glos depends on which part. I am city and we have a good doorstep collection scheme

flyingvisit · 09/01/2011 16:06

Compost. We dont garden so is compost any use?

Himalaya · 09/01/2011 17:51

Flying visit - do you have any garden or a yard -a little patch of earth to put one of those compost tardis things on? If you only put veg, fruit pealings, egg boxes and loo roll insides and vacumn bag contents in it it will hardly ever fill up, you can keep adding stuff for years and it will rot down and worms will work it down into the soil. If it ever does fill up invite someone who gardens to come round with a wheel barrow.

If you have a potty user in the house, a bit of wee on the compost heap also helps.

flyingvisit · 09/01/2011 17:52

We do have one of those but never bother . It was full when we arrived here and we just left it alone. My husband doesnt like me to use it as it encourages rats?

greenlotus · 09/01/2011 18:01

I have been filling up my compost "dalek" for about three years and never taken any thing out of the bottom, it's permanently about 2/3 full. I don't think it's brilliant compost as I don't layer it properly but it does eat up the spud peelings.

It doesn't encourage rats I believe if you stick to vegetable waste and garden cuttings/cardboard.

MyZeroWaste · 09/01/2011 18:18

Thanks for the welcome, @CheerfulYank and @dockate

@saintknickerless it doesn't say anywhere that there was 1 razor blade in the bag ;)

I didn't realise you were a neighbour @frozenfestiveflo :) Over here we have kerbside collections for glass, tins, paper and green waste, so it's pretty tough, but we take things to bring banks while we are on other errands.

@flyingvisit there are loads of people who would LOVE your compost if you made it - freecycle or local allotments if you have them. And as greenlotus says, as long as you don't put cooked food into it, you shouldn't have a problem with rats.
Tbh people get stressed about rats, but they are around anyway - they don't arrive because you set up a compost heap. Apparently you're never less than 6 feet from a rat anywhere in the UK Shock

saintknickerless · 09/01/2011 18:31

Sorry was just joking becasue I could only see one on the picture. I am a fellow hairy mary in the winter Grin

MmeLindt · 09/01/2011 19:54

MyZeroWaste
Apologies for my snide comments at the beginning of this thread. Baroqin was already winning me over before you came on the thread and you have answered all questions so well, despite the fact that we were making fun of you and your family. Good on you.

And I am glad that your DD does not have to collect crisp bags at school. :)

Can I ask about compost. Ours is collected by the local council (we are in Switzerland) and someone recently told me that we could put animal waste in there. Is that true? I thought it was only vegetable waste.

We don't have a lot of animal waste, as our dog gets the meat scraps but if we have chicken then obviously the bones are left over.

CheerfulYank · 09/01/2011 21:12

We're the same with scraps...we don't compost (yet) but our dog and rabbit take care of most of it. :)