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AIBU?

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think that if DH's boss and all the managing directors for his company can't be arsed to go to work in the snow

41 replies

theevildead2 · 02/12/2010 09:01

they shouldn't expect the underlings to bloody go!

They also fucked off early home last night because it was a nightmare getting home.

Dh and his colleagues can't leave work early unless they have permission.. they can't can't get permission if none of the bosses can be bothered to be there.

Company is in another town from most of the employees as well because it moved last year.

OP posts:
Quenelle · 02/12/2010 10:09

I have a very good manager. He believes that when you're a senior manager you have responsibilities, you only deserve 'perks' when you have carried out your responsibilities. In this case to the safety of your staff.

At a company I used to work for the MD would make it into work in the snow and pick other members of staff up on the way. Anyone else who didn't make it in would have a day's holiday taken from them. You couldn't really argue with that :(

PonceyMcPonce · 02/12/2010 10:17

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expatinscotland · 02/12/2010 10:19

Pointy, such eloquence!

The customers do not need the directors to be in. The customers hardly ever speak with the directors. They need the front line staff in.

What planet do you all live on? Welcome to the real world. If you hate it so much, work hard and get promoted to those positions of seniority yourselves!

And this attitude, in a nutshell, is why this country is destined to go to hell in a handbasket. 'I'm alright, Jack, so fuck you. You have to put up with this because you're an underling. Deal with it.'

You reap what you sow.

And if you sow 'I'm better than you because I'm the manager/born who I am/went to Eton, etc' and 'One rule for me, another for you', don't be surprised when the Jacques' have enough of it one day and line such ilk up against a wall.

spidookly · 02/12/2010 10:24

YANBU

Good managers lead from the front.

On snow days when people can't come in they WORK as front line staff.

ItalianLady · 02/12/2010 10:26

YABU.

They can ring the MD and ask.

My husband is a director and is working from home as we have a lot of snow and he has told everyone who has been able to make it in to go home early to make sure they can get home safely.

expatinscotland · 02/12/2010 10:27

Sorry, missed quotes:
Pointy, such eloquence!

'The customers do not need the directors to be in. The customers hardly ever speak with the directors. They need the front line staff in.

What planet do you all live on? Welcome to the real world. If you hate it so much, work hard and get promoted to those positions of seniority yourselves!'

southeastastra · 02/12/2010 10:34

going to hell in a handbasket?? lol stop being so over dramatic

howdidthishappenthen · 02/12/2010 10:37

Err excuse me. I'm the boss/owner of our company. I sent everyone else home at 4 last night, and covered the office myself til end of business at 6pm. Today I'm the only person in as I've told everyone else to work from home to save them the freezing journey. We pay for gotomypc subscriptions for all staff in anticipation of this type of scenario. Not all bosses are shits Hmm

Back to OP, YANBU if the bosses live a similar distance from the workplace to the staff. Who makes it in and who doesn't should be down to who can get there safely and in a reasonable timescale, not who is on the highest/lowest paygrade.

Anonymousemummy · 02/12/2010 10:48

My DH is a director he worked from home yesterday and is again today as we live in Surrey and he works in London. He can do ALL his work from home.

The people that work in the office 'generally' live in the same town as they work and can walk to work. I say generally as I am fully aware that not everyone lives and works in the same vicinity.

If there were no people on the phones actually in the office the company would grind to a halt.

DH cannot and will not drive to work just to show face, it's dangerous. He's working from home and when I say working from home I mean that he gets up has breakfast, starts working and nine, breaks for lunch for half an hour and goes back to work until 5. He's e-mailing and on the phone all day so no-one can accuse him of not working from home.

Our DC however being off school cannot understand why Daddy is home but can't play with them in the snow.

So Evil YABVVU!

AbsofLatkes · 02/12/2010 10:50

Depends ona number of factors:

  • where do they live? Neither of the main managers of my department are in today, as both live off in the 'burbs and their train lines are screwed. They are logging on from home though
  • where do the underlings live? I'm in central-ish London, so it's little bother for me to come in. The tube was a bit delayed, but pretty much able to run as normal - I have no excuse so am in
  • are they working from home or spending the day larking about?
  • Are they contactable?

If they do live in an area where they could get in, and the "underlings" can't, and they're spending the day larking about and are uncontactable, then yes, YANBU.

Anonymousemummy · 02/12/2010 10:54

Agree Abs

onceamai · 02/12/2010 11:10

DH is a director. DH works in Europe Mon-Fri - a very cold and snowy part. He is at work now and has been all week. He's hoping to fly home tonight for important stuff in the UK tomorrow. It's tomorrow I'm worried about - we have an inch and a half of snow here. My company which is a mile away is shut and I couldn't get the car up the hill to get ds to school this morning. Merton Council appear to have forgotten to grit the roads!!!!

pointydog · 02/12/2010 12:10

I don't hate anything, mistle. I was giving the example of what dh did the other day as he is a boss and I am perfectly happy with the seniority of my post and with my bosses.

That is, however, all beside th e point. I am talking about being a Good Manager and that is just what a Good Manager should do.

If the bosses go home early because they are worried about making it home and they don't communicate anything to their staff, that is just poor management. No doubt about it.

PenelopeTitsDropped · 02/12/2010 12:11

YABU/YANBU. Can't decide.

I am a Company Director. I tell my Employees that under no circumstances must they travel to work if there is any danger/difficulty

A good employee is not a dead Employee.

I also tell them not to be arsed/worried if the School closes and they are tied up with Childcare; or a child/parent is ill.

I invested stupid money a couple of years ago, so they can all work from home/laptops, in such eventualities through a big server. It flashes green flourescent symbols; I am entirely impressed.

However, we often have to rely on "original documents". Scans/faxes wont suffice; and travel to the office is required. We all manage it, between ourselves.

Oblomov · 02/12/2010 12:32

Yesterday, I offered to work from home, requested 'my pc' to me set up, but they said no, saying they had too many subscriptions to my pc already.
We had alot of snow this monring. So I don't see why I should have to take annual leave.

PowderMum · 02/12/2010 21:13

As a senior manager, if I can go in I will. We expect staff to try to come in if safe.

If the business doesn't open there is no production and we have unhappy customers and lose money.

Most of what we do cannot be done remotely.

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