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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

to expect SIL to be a bit more flexible on holiday activities?

63 replies

frgr · 20/11/2010 00:11

A bit of background, because I'm genuinely not sure if I'm the one being unreasonable here.

H and I haven't had a real holiday since the kids arrived (weekends at parents excepting). In the Spring we've planned to stay for a week at this hotel which we chose because it's quite family friendly (so no worrying about food arrangements or kids entertainment), in particular because it does a lot of outside stuff like pony trekking (colleague has stayed and seemed to enjoy it) which I think will be amazing for the kids.

SIL is due to go in for some semi-routine surgery the month we're away, so I offered (trying to be nice) to take her little one away with us. The kids get on very well together, so she would have a small break for recovery and not have to fret so much. So far so good.

BUT... the problem is that, according to DH, this evening when he confirmed with her the dates we'll be away, apparently they were discussing what sort of "outdoor stuff" he meant - he explained that we want to give the kids a chance to have some outdoor fun for once since we only have a shared communal garden - well SIL has banned her daughter from participating in anything risky - no pony trekking permitted, NO swimming lessons, no hiring bikes to go on some countryside cycling - massive problem basically. Because that was sort of the whole point of the holiday!

I'm totally unsure what to do about this now. We've booked the bloomin rooms for everyone.. but we HAVE TO respect what she's asked us. But that means either stopping our kids getting involved in the stuff we'd planned (might as well just stay at a hotel around the corner Sad) or letting ours go off and her daughter watch from a distance?

I don't want to be seen as the bad person if her daughter kicks up a fuss about why she can't go on the ponies or into the pool, but at the same time we can't often afford holidays and I'm upset that we might have to massively alter our plans for this one (promises already made to our kids about what they'll be getting up to).

AIBU to think that:
SIL should have warned us when she accepted my offer, before we went ahead and booked?
Maybe I shouldhave volunteered more information about what kind of kids holiday we were planning?
Maybe H should have warned me his sister was like this (we're not that close, I was trying to help her out because I would like to be closer :))?

AIBU??? (If anyone has any idea of a nice comprimise that won't result in my kids getting upset, upsetting hers, or upsetting SIL,i would love to hear it!!)

OP posts:
Bink · 20/11/2010 12:10

Can't you give SIL a different choice? You've said you think your niece would be upset by not being able to join in, but she's already been in a similar position with other children - over the school swimming. So maybe (you never know) niece might not actually mind so much being left out?

Thus you could give SIL the option of still taking her daughter (on SIL's rules), but making sure that SIL is absolutely certain her daughter will not mind.

What's behind this is that my ds is v unsporty, and though he'll join in swimming & walks & cycling & outdoor running around if encouraged, it wouldn't cross his mind to feel second-class-citizen/left out if he had a nice big book to read instead.

curlymama · 20/11/2010 12:18

Do not alter your plans.

Give sil as much info as you can to try and persuade her, offer plenty of reassurance and try to be understanding of her wierdness.

If she's still not happy,tell her that you have no other option, so you won't be able to take DN.

jamaisjedors · 20/11/2010 12:23

Looking at the website it seems you could put DN in the kids club while yours were doing an activity - can you explain that DSIL has to explain to HER daughter that this will sometimes be the case?

What ages are the children involved?

Eglu · 20/11/2010 12:29

I live in the area you are going to, and I worked at that hotel for a short while. TBH if you don't do outdoor stuff, swimming etc. there really isn't much else to do in the area.

You still haven't said the age of your DN. I think you need to ask sIL to change her mind or not take her daughter as she wil lhave miserable time watching you all have fun.

CarGirl · 20/11/2010 12:30

I'd go on holiday for the week without dn, but then have dn for a week at your house so she gets a treat of sleeping over etc?

LIZS · 20/11/2010 12:48

I have a feeing that a kids club won't be an acceptable compromise either. Would you be funding dn's activities or will her parents gvie you something towards it ? Could therw be a financial constraint ?

WhereYouLeftIt · 20/11/2010 12:59

I would not be happy to take the DN with me under your SIL's preconditions. And it wouldn't be much fun for your DN either, effectively having her exclusion rubbed in her face every day of the holiday.

It is not your SIL's place to dictate what kind of holiday you and yours can have, which is effectively what she is trying to do.

LittleMissHissyFit · 20/11/2010 13:06

Don't take DN, go with your family and enjoy your paid for holiday.

If anyone asks, say that you are going to do outdoors things and her mother forbids her to take part, so it meant she couldn't be included.

Put the freaky onus back on to the one who caused this. don't you dare feel guilty, you are in the right here, your SIL is barmy.

readywithwellies · 20/11/2010 13:50

frgr - everyone is saying to ditch the dn. Just pick up the phone now and do it.

Unrulysun · 20/11/2010 14:01

Can you send sil the link then call her and say you've spoken to a friend of a friend on mumsnet and that it seems that there's nothing else to do in the area. You're really sorry that you hadn't known that before but...well...with that and the fact that dcs have looked at the website and are really excited about the horse riding...what would she suggest? Can dn join in or will you have to not take her this time?

frgr · 20/11/2010 14:46

wow so many responses! i've been a bit busy with the kids today so not had time to reply. I HAVE shown DH this thread though (i thought it would help rather than trying to argue my point about having to choose our kids promised holiday vs. having to leave out DN which doesn't seem fair at all). he - fortunately - agreed with what most of you are saying, we have phoned SIL (ok, he did) and explained the focus of the holiday. he's managed to convince her that DN WILL be allowed to cycle and swim in the shallow end on the condition that a) both of us are always present and b) appropriate safety precautions are taken (like helemets, only swimming near a lifeguard).

i think an acceptable comprimise is to leave out the pony trekking for them unless ours mention it nearer the time, and if they do, we will just have to leave DN with H and he can look after her whilst i go with ours. DN is 11 btw. she did a month of swimming lessons with school before she was withdrawn (i have to admit i thought it was longer, so safe to assume she's definitely not a strong or experienced swimmer, so i can understand a bit more now. still - practice makes perfect surely!).

oh, and we had offered to pay for all the kids activities, i definitely wouldn't have felt right if we offered her a break just after she'd out of hospital and then asked her to fork out for stuff. i was hoping thatthis would be a rare treat on us, since it doesn't cost that much more for an extra child compared to all of us going anyway :)

so it seems like we've found a middle way - SIL realises how off her demands were (from what i can tell having overheard DH and her talking, and what he says) but at the same time i'm totally ok with not getting involved in the riskier stuff, i don't have a problem if she decides as a parent that horses are too dangerous for her daughter to be around whilst she's in hospital.

i'm glad we seem to have resolved it - i will DEFINTIELY make things clearer if we ever do this with friends or family again!!

OP posts:
jamaisjedors · 20/11/2010 15:23

11!!!! Shock

Good luck with it, you sound lovely.

diddl · 20/11/2010 15:50

11-heavens, I was thinking pre school!

Pony riding OK-but swimming & riding a bike?

I thought that learning to do those things were part of growing up!

DaftApeth · 20/11/2010 16:33

Blimey 11?

I was expecting you to say 5!!

Does she realy not see the need for her dd to learn to swim?

Shock
CarGirl · 20/11/2010 16:35

11

clam · 20/11/2010 18:06

And you want to get close to her.... why?

11? She's a loon!

RunawayChristmasTree · 20/11/2010 18:14

Tell her to get over herself, and that if you are taking her child she will have to fit in with what your family are doing or not go

gorionine · 20/11/2010 18:25

I did not want to reply before knowing your DN's age.

I am Shock that she is 11! I was guessing between 3 and 6!

I would try to find a way to explain that at lest learning to swimm is a good step towards keeping her safe. As well i thought swimming in primary school was non negociable, did I get that wrong?

Myleetlepony · 20/11/2010 18:25

You won't keep small girls away from ponies, so make sure your SIL explains to her daughter that she won't be allowed to join in when yours go riding. And as for only swimming in the shallow end... at 11 years old... FGS!
Your SIL is a loon, how much longer does she think she can wrap her daughter up in cotton wool?

SauvignonBlanche · 20/11/2010 18:31

Relieved for you, but feel sorry for your DN, her mother sounds like a loon!

maryz · 20/11/2010 18:36

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healthyElfy · 20/11/2010 18:38

It may be that she is feeling highly anxious about her operation and is worried that if anything does happen she will not be available. While her reactions are extreme I can feel some sympathy for her.

maryz · 20/11/2010 18:38

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Sarsaparilllla · 20/11/2010 18:40

Glad you got it sorted, blimey tho, 11 and not allowed to ride a bike or learn to swim, poor child, I feel geninely sorry for her Sad

screamingskull · 20/11/2010 18:41

oh my word my eyes have just about popped out my head i thought your DN was between 3 - 6. 11 was never in my thoughts.

think your sil really should let her child live a little its hardley life threatning activities.

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