to move Cameron up slightly (albeit from a VERY lowly starting point) in my estimation for his reaction to Lord Young?

[30andMerkin]

Every time I hear the radio quote him saying 'he wasn't speaking for the government and he'll be doing rather less speaking in future' I do a little .

I think it shows wit and lack of tolerance for Tory bollocks, and I usually HATE the man!

The agenda against him would be because he's posh but pretending to be middle class and in the shit with the rest of us.

I have no problem with him being posh only when he pretends he isn't!

There is a lot of venom aimed at the Government due to their personal wealth. I don't see what difference it makes to how they govern the country.

It makes a big difference when the laws the enact and the budgets they issue affect us but don't affect them

I.e NHS crap oh no problem we can pay and go private.

Tarquin university fees put up, we'll just sell some shares.

State school failing, the prep's school just great for jonty.

Their backgraounds make seperate them from the decisions they are making which hugely impact on the rest of us.

Huddspur really? You don't see how having been enormously privileged all your life and then spouting 'on yer bike' type policies as a response to unemployment for example is an issue?

No I don't think that they think that. I think all politicians be they Liberal/Conservative/Labour want to do their best for the country, they just don't always agree on how to do it.

I don't agree with tution fees, and I don't have any love lost for Tony Blair.

But tution fees at current levels are already problematic for some ...teachers, nurses, physio's etc, raising them to 9k is going serious implications beyond high levels of debt because realistically you'd have to think very long and hard at your career decisions in these fields.

going -to create-

I think he acted quickly and seemed genuinely p+$?ed off with Lord Young... He looked furious!
I voted for him and still stand by my vote.

As to personal wealth, I never, ever heard this as an issue with Tony Blair... His personal wealth is vast. But it's all Mumsnetters bang on about at the moment!

This DC bashing because he's 'posh' and 'wealthy' is a bit too school bullyish to me.
I went to private school, do you want to bash me while you're at it?

Quite happy to bash TB for much the same reason.

Although I don't really see it as bashing, more pointing out that, they do not understand because due to their wealth they are sheilded from the econmic reality for many.

and Lord Tosspot just proves how far removed SOME are.

Can we dispense with the idea that anyone who criticises David Cameron/The Conservative party is an avid supporter of Tony Blair/The Labour party? It's a little trite.

Seconded, tethersend. TB is a wanker too.

LY gets to claim £300 a day tax free as a Lords Daily Allowance. Never had it so good indeed

A third of people are in rented accommodation.

Probably a sixth of people or more are homeowners but mortgage free -- retired, inherited wealth, worked hard to pay it off free (or a combination of those). Apparently 73% of pensioners (8 million people, at least 4? million of the 24 million households in the UK) are mortgage free, and I seem to know a fair few people who worked their socks off to become mortgage free long before retired age.

So reductions in mortgage rates make no or negligible difference to over half the population in terms of living expenses.

Anyway, low mortgage rates offer little reassurance if you are living with high job insecurity.

That's why it's so insensitive, Lord Young's observation only applies to about a third of people (at best).

Moreover cost of living has risen sharply in other respects of the last 3 years (compared to other three year periods since 1990). Plenty of people are struggling with the cumulative effects of those price rises.