a suggestion for those drivers not wanting to lift share

[Fibilou]

a) Put on very loud, very noisy music in car and sing along to it, badly
b) Make car into a total tip
c) Drive too fast and do a few "sudden" manoeuvres
d) See if you can get the car to smell a bit funky

Nobody will ever want to get a lift with you again

just to clarify, this thread was a jokey response to the "lift sharing" one.

I think a lot of us hate lift sharing because the commute to work, if you have children, can often be the only part of the whole day that you actually get to yourself and it is sacred. I know that when I had an hour's drive to work (this was pre-baby) I loved it because I didn't have to make conversation, didn't have to do anything, wasn't thinking that I should be doing something else. I could just put my foot down, sing along to AC/DC and pretend I was filming an episode of Traffic Cops. {can't believe I am prepared to admit that on the internet !)

Thanks for your reply soggy. I am training to work in the medical profession and am a massive advocate for independence etc. However I do know a couple of people who would not be allowed to drive because of their conditions. One of whom is epileptic but it is not as yet under control.

The scared thing I do think is a legitimate reason. There used to be a massive thread on here from many many people who were either having lessons and were terrified or who were too scared to even go that far and attempt lessons. I do think if someone is that scared then they probably should not be driving anyway because their reactions in some situations may well put themselves abd others in danger.
Finally the money thing - I currently can't afford the heating or a car. It is just not an option for us at all due to DP having an accident at work a few years ago and me being a full time student. We cope perfectly well without a car and do not put on other people for lifts (will accept one if it is raining though and we are offered!). Like I said a sense of entitlement is never ok and if someone is taking the piss I fully understand drivers getting annoyed. My issue was with the poster who made out that simply "getting a car" is straightforward and with the people who resent giving one off lifts when they are going that way anyway. It just seems incredibly anti social.

Pick your nose when waiting at traffic lights and flick it under the driver's seat.

That's what my DH does anyway.

I agree Fibilou. When I had my old Mini I used to like loudly humming 'This is a Self-Preservation Society' from the Italian Job whilst zipping down country lanes.

Oh you're all such selfish twats.

I have been learning to drive forever. It soaks up all my money and my time and I just can't pass. Another test next week (sigh).

I am thrilled to be offered a lift and don't ask for them if I can help it. If I do, I bloody well hate it. It makes me feel like a baby playing at being a grown-up. Being a non-driver because you are SHIT at driving is a soul-destroying experience in your 30's. I can't change jobs though I hate where I am as nowhere else will employ me in my field without a license. I have constant stress commuting between locations on my job. I have to wear sensible shoes when I'd rather wear something with heels. I am never as organised as others as I can't bring around things in my car and sort them later - if I leave a location and realise I've forgotten something, I can't EVER quickly nip back and get it as I'm on a bus travelling in the opposite direction. My hair is always a bit scuzzy from tearing about trying to make buses etc. I would like nothing more than to have my own car and never have that desperate hope to be offered a lift instead.

"Sense of entitlement" is one of the most overused phrases on MN. So, sometimes people feel good when others help them out? They just have such a "sense of entitlement"

notalone, I'm not so antisocial that I don't mind giving the occasional lift - I would just hate for it to become a regular thing, even for someone I really, really liked

Fibilou Ha Ha - that is brilliant! You are right, I probably have posted on the wrong thread. I should probably have written on the other one instead. I guess I just wanted to put across that there are often good reasons why people don't drive and that not every non driver has a sense of entitlement. I understand what you are saying though as your drive is your time to yourself and I can fully appreciate you not wanting to share an hour on a regular basis. Would it bother you once in a blue moon though just out of interest?

Fibilou - cross posts

no, see above - it wouldn't bother me maybe once or twice a week. I would just hate it to be every single journey

just tell them to get their own car, pay out for it them selves(I only want to give lifts to people who either can't drive due to health reasons/disability or help me)

Workingninewhilefive - Are you in yorkshire by any chance? If so I fully sympathise with you cos the buses are shite!

This reminds me of the time I used to work with a woman who was forever saying..'you can drop me off on your way'. Not CAN you drop me off, or would you MIND dropping me off.

Trouble was, it was never on my way and involved a 10 mile detour.

Now that's what I call a Sense of Entitlement.

Good luck with your test Working9. I didn't pass until I was 35 and it did make a huge difference to my life. I was lucky enough to pass while it still cost a reasonable amount though.

The original thread was bemoaning people who assume drivers won't mind going an hour out of their way to give someone a lift on a regular basis. And this one was intended as a jokey response to that.

My DB has epilepsy and has lost his licence more than once due to changes in his medication. He once lost it the same week he regained it after a year's ban. It is hugely damaging to his life.

Quenelle tell me about it, DH has given up now, he gave up about 10 years ago, and can't be arsed to try and get his licence back as he never goes long enough without a fit. it causes massive problems with trying to get work as in his trade driving is often needed.
and pain in the arse being the only driver in the house(until ds is on the road)