To think this is actually very harmful rather than beneficial

[TheLadyEvenstar]

Was talking to a few mums earlier and discussing whether our dcs were dry of a night. I was quite upfront and said "No ds2 is nowhere near dry at night but it will come in time"
Another mum then piped up that her family do not use nappies on their dc of a night time as the feeling of a wet bed will "Make them dry quicker"

I have to say I was and didn't know what to say.
Surely they can see in the long run its got to be bad for the lo's skin?

the mother said she has had to change his bed sometimes up to 8 times a night...like someone else said I think it is more the fact she now has a baby as well as a toddler.

Actually Cargirl I was just talking about my experince, so I am not wrong because that is what happened. Of course they were dry because they were at a stage where they were ready, I'm not stupid, I wouldn't be trying to get my kids dry at night if they weren't ready!

god what a nightmare

but you know not all children wake when they wet the bed.

DS1 can still (when he forgets to switch his alarm back on) sleep through the night in a sopping wet bed

but doesn't she realise she's just making herself More work with a baby and not less

personally having babies makes me much more washing-averse and anything less than a fairly washing-lite transtition would have been off-putting.

meh - ultimately, she wants to wash 8 lots of bedding that's up to her. I don't see it as harmful at all, though if it carried on not getting better - a bit pointless?

I can't believe she even HAS 8 sets of bedding - that's quite impressive.

I think my 3 DS's (including one still bed wetting) only have 8 sets between them

mine have more than 8 lol but thats because i go ott

Not all dc wake when they wet - My DD certainly didn't! My DS2 was dry at night at 3y7m. DS1 was dry day and night at 20 months (his choice!). DD wasn't dry at night until 12yrs4months. Which was only 3 months ago. She never woke up, and would not wake up even to a sopping wet bed.

I used to put nappies on my dry-during-the-day DS at night and they would be wet each morning. One holiday I forgot the nappies and shops weren't accessible. Terrified that he would wet the hotel bed I made extra efforts to ensure a dry night and the net effect was that he didn't need nappies again. So, in our case at least, removing the nappies sharpened everyone up and the 'accidents' were few and far between...

I can tell you that it doesn't work. My DD has resuable bed pants from 2yo, which obviously meant she could feel the wet more, meade not a jot of difference. At 4y she refused any bed time nappy of any sort and just has a reuseable bed mat - again could feel the wet, no difference.

She finally grew out of it around 6-7 years old. She was dry int he day at 24 months, entirely led by herself - so def not laziness either.

Also - not all children will wake with a wet bed or wet nappy.

You cannot night time train. It just happens. It generally happens between 18m and 7 years, but can be either side of that. It is not something you train! If your child is dry early it is not because of what you have done, it is because their body is ready. Likewise if your child is late to be night time ddry, it is not because of anythng you have done or not done.

My 4 year old is still in pullups at night. We have tried letting him wet the bed but he is such a deep sleeper he happily stays asleep in it all night without noticing until morning. Not really sure what can be done about that - he has night terrors so no way am I waking him up in the night to check or put him on the loo as that sets him off. Happy to wait until he is ready.

YANBU OP, ask your friend if she would be happy to sleep in a piss soaked bed every night. It's fucking cruel.

I can't understand why this is nesarcery. What difference does it make if a small child is in nappies at night, it's hardly doing any harm is it?

The world has gone mad.

I cannot believe the cost of one nappy or pull up a night is worse than washing 8 sets of bedding, how cab you dry 8 sets of bedding, and getting up to change a bed FFS what's that all about? With a newborn. Sorry she is barking.

In my DCs case DD1 was 4 before she stopped needing nappies at night, shecannit hold it all night though, she wakes once or even twice for the toilet most nights. DD2 it was before her 3rd birthday.

You cannot night time train. It just happens

..there are things that you can do to make it easier for them though - not training as such, true.

i agree kids can't control what happens when they're unconscious too - i think sometimes you have to give it a go to know what they're actually doing, whether it is sleep-wetting or they're wetting whilst awake.

YANBU, my parents banned me from sleeping in a bed because I was dirty and so didn't deserve to sleep in a bed.

huddspur, your parents are fuckwits

It doesn't just happen for some. Ds1 still wet at night at 10. Ds2 dry at night at 4. Didn't do anything different. Ds1 has NEVER woken up aftern wetting the bed and has slept on till morning every time.

Huddspur, sorry to hear that!!!

I think DS2 will be dry later rather than sooner.
DS1 was very early.

My ds is 4.7 but when we try him without pyjama pants he wets the bed but doesn't even wake up when he has! Thus spends the whole night sleeping in wee- yuck.
If he can't even wake up when he's done a wee, there's not much chance of him waking up before he does one is there!

I didn't know that when the books said "take your child out of nappies" to train them, it didn't mean night as well.

I had 4 nights of wet beds(which I thought was supposed to happen) and he then was dry night and day within 2 weeks. I had 3 jobs and on my own so not up for major bed changes. I didn't do any more than put a towel over the wet bit and change the duvet. But hey it worked.He has 2 accidents in 6 years both when he's been unwell but that's all.

I think the wetter the better for training (obviously not telling the child they are dirty and stressing that they can get up and use the loo).If they don't know it's wet how can they know what to change? Don't do loads of milk or water before bed or have supper 20 minutes before packing them off.

DD was night dry within a couple of weeks of being day dry (she was quite young at 2.6), but I still put a nappy on her for a few weeks more - just to make sure.

I agree with the PP's that said it is nothing to do with training or technique. It is hormonal and something which our little ones have no control over -some will be night dry quite young, for others it will take longer. There is no hard or fast rule. I think that any parent, who hopes to take their child out of nappies on a night before their little body is ready, is doomed to 'failure' and many, many hours of washing. For me, the cue wasn't to try DD out of nappies on a night as such, it was to wait until her night-time nappies had been dry for a few weeks before trying.

memoo DS1 has been dry for more than 2 years in the day (since 2 years 2 months), but is miles from being dry at night (he is 4 years 7 months).

Have tried no fluids after 5pm and also lifting him at 10pm but he still wets the pullup. We have also tried no pullup but he's such a deep sleeper he doesn't wake and it lying in a wet bed all night (only tried twice).

I have just had to start buying the age 4-7 pull ups rather than the XL night time toddler ones as the smaller ones were soaked through each morning - his bed, him and his pjs all soaked.

Lucky for you your child was ready when you took the nappies off (DD was like that)...

I think if they have the muscle control to be able to wait it out during the day they can probably do it at night too. It's just conditioning.If they are too tired to wake up maybe do an early bed whilst they train?

I will have a quite vivid dream if I need the loo badly. It's just the conditioning that means I wake up and use the loo rather than go in the bed. Think it's one of those things we learn.

Love to hear someone from somewhere that doesn't have nappies 24/7.

DS2's pull-ups are always soaked through he wees for england when he is asleep!!

But then he is always thirsty all day everyday