Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Fuming with work!

18 replies

Charleney · 11/11/2010 08:52

AIBU to be absolutely raging with work..
Myself and alot of others in the office are on 14k a year..
New person comes in (admin role) and starts on 18K..
Ok annoying enough.
But heres the cherry..
I have been passed half of her work over, so i am now doing 3 peoples jobs for 4 bloody grand less!
Whats that all about?!

OP posts:
smellyfeet · 11/11/2010 08:58

How do you know what everyone earns?

Charleney · 11/11/2010 09:00

People are very open about it in here.

OP posts:
StealthPoHoHoHo · 11/11/2010 09:04

yuo need to raise it with your manager - ask for a pay rise first - use the fact that you are doing all this extra work (long term and as part of your normal role) as the basis for that

bubbleOseven · 11/11/2010 09:06

YANBU

It clearly isn't fair for two people to do the same job and for one person to get paid more than the other. I can't even begin to understand how this is seen as an OK thing to do by UK employers.

The sooner we have total transparency with salaries the better, then all this nonsense will stop and people will be paid for the job they do, not the negotiating skills they possess.

Why should someone get paid more just because their negotiating skills are better? My embroidery skills are fabulous - should I be paid more that my colleague sitting opposite?

Charleney · 11/11/2010 09:07

Ive tried to speak to him, all i get is there is nothing he can do.
Hes more of a moron than a manager to be honest :) drives me bloody mental!
Never sticks up for me when i need him, due to go off on maternity early next year and had a few questions but never has a clue and never gets back to me.

I told him if i was to take on this job i wanted more money, but he just laughed and thought i was joking.
And on the other hand do feel really cheeky as i am going on maternity leave soon.

OP posts:
StealthPoHoHoHo · 11/11/2010 09:09

but why should the company pay you more when they don't have to. You don't ask, you don't get. They'll raise your salary without asking if they choose to do so and desperately want to keep you, othrwise they'll decide if you don't ask you are happy with your salary.
(Says Stealth, who works for the NHS..)

StealthPoHoHoHo · 11/11/2010 09:09

send him in email outlining what you want and asking for a responce, that should 'official' things up a bit

Charleney · 11/11/2010 09:10

I totally agree Bubble..

The thing is the wages werent negotiated, this was the wage that was posted on the job centre website.

Just feels like a massive slap in the face to the rest of us who work our arses off for this company and get paid eff all!

OP posts:
bubbleOseven · 11/11/2010 09:14

I wonder if you might have a legal case for unequal treatment due to your impending maternity leave? just a thought.

Charleney · 11/11/2010 09:17

I never thought of it that way to be honest..

Thats something to keep an eye on.
I just get myself too stressed out sometimes.. i need to keep myself calm :)

OP posts:
StealthPoHoHoHo · 11/11/2010 09:19

Assuming the others on £14k aren't pregnant too, I think that would be difficult to prove - you'd have to show you'd been singled out for unfair treatment. I think/

Charleney · 11/11/2010 09:20

Yeah thats true..
I happen to know a manager in the office is only on 15k.

I dont understand how it is justified?
Its crazy.

OP posts:
flowerybeanbag · 11/11/2010 09:20

There's no indication that charleney is paid less than this new person because she is pregnant.

Unfair, yes. Bit weird too, if it's not individual negotiation by the candidate, but an advertised figure - you'd think they'd at least try to get someone on the same wage, given the lack of jobs at the moment.

agedknees · 11/11/2010 09:24

Can you ask for a new job description now you have been given extra duties?

Compare it with the job description of the new person and ask to speak to a HR person about the inequality of pay??

frostyfingers · 11/11/2010 09:25

Quite often an "incomer" to a job is on a higher salary than the person who they were replacing. I know when I left one job, the advertised salary was £3k higher than mine.

I think you need to discuss a plan of action with the other members of staff and decide how best to approach it. If you all feel the same then I think you would get a better result as a group than individually.

Charleney · 11/11/2010 09:25

Well that was our argument in here, as the job market stands at the minute, they could have easily got someone in for 14/15k. Plus the fact it is just an admin role. Nothing specialised whatsoever.
No one in here really has a specialised role.
In which case we should all be on an even keel.

OP posts:
SweetKate · 11/11/2010 09:53

I used to work in HR and this happened all the time. When we were recruiting we looked at market data/salary surveys to know what salary to recruit for.

Unfortunately, when you have been in a job a long time, your salary increases (if you get them in the current climate!) don't always keep up with the market and you can easily fall behind.

It was always easier in my company to find £30k to bring in a new person than to find £2k a year to bring an exisiting person up to market level! It was a nightmare.

However, if you have taken on additional responsibliities that was alwasy one of the ways we could use to find extra funding. Look at your job description and highlight your extra duties and take that to your manager or HR.

badfairy · 11/11/2010 10:03

I agree with SweetKate. A very wise mentor of mine years ago told me that "the only person who looks after your career is you." and it has stood me in good stead. Sounds to me like the new employee negotiated her/himself a good deal and to be honest it is up to you to do the same. Nobody is going to hand it to you on a plate.If you think you are worth more put together a reasoned argument of why this is the case and take it to your boss at your next review.

New posts on this thread. Refresh page