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to be very heartened by the student riots!

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Heathcliffscathy · 10/11/2010 22:07

apathy be damned...I predict more riots...looks like the youth have found their teeth.

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daftpunk · 11/11/2010 14:19

Pottonista;

That's one of the best posts I've ever read on MN.

xstitchsparkler · 11/11/2010 14:22

YABU because violence is never the answer and rioting is nothing to be proud of.

huddspur · 11/11/2010 14:24

YABU I support the campaign to stop the tuition fee rise but the protest yesterday was a disgrace and has probably harmed the NUS's case

earwicga · 11/11/2010 14:42

huddspur - you do realise that there were 50,000 students in London yesterday and THAT was the protest. Just because you didn't see it in the MSM doesn't mean it didn't happen.

earwicga · 11/11/2010 14:43

'We should question these cuts-they are ideological not just economical thatcher wouldn't dream of actually being able tomimplement this level of social engineering.'

Agred. But Thatcher hadn't had 13 years of New Labour neo-liberalism doing worse than she did.

piscesmoon · 11/11/2010 14:46

Excellent post, Pottonista.

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huddspur · 11/11/2010 14:49

earwicga- I just think that we spent more time talking about the violence rather than the fees issue.

scoobytoo · 11/11/2010 14:58

Cupcake....Yes and those degrees are obviously worth while. Pottonista put it brillantly.
P.S. Please please don't name call there is no need.

bettymoody · 11/11/2010 14:58

they only riot when it affects them

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Momdeguerre · 11/11/2010 14:59

I remain unsure as to whether my children will be able to attend University. Regardless, the cost of University would be nothing in comparison to the potential cost to my family if my husband had been hit by the concrete/fire extinguisher lobbed off roofs yesterday while he tried to do his job. Under the scrutiny of the media. While being baited. While being set fire to. While being hit with missiles. While he is damned for doing his job or not doing his job according to the whim of the press/public.

Oh, and while he was not 'brutalising' poor innocent passers by or 'murdering' innocent students.

I am probably over sensitive. After all, I am sure he deserves it for joining up.

cupcakesandbunting · 11/11/2010 15:11

Momdeguerre there aren't many people who relish in seeing police officer injured by morons. However there aren't many people who'd sympathise with them either after Ian Tomlinson/Jean Charles de Menezes.

SeaShellsOnTheSeaShore · 11/11/2010 15:13

It hasn't been reported in the media but the protesters started chanting "stop throwing shit" and they did. The whole protest can't be discounted because of the actionof a handful-there were 50k plus other people there!

No one is saying the fire extinguisher etc was right-just debating and considering the bigger picture

UnquietDad · 11/11/2010 15:14

The police can never get it right. If they do something they've "heavy-handed", if they are more hands-off then people come out with the "why aren't they out there doing their job?" stuff.

If it had been your window or mine that had been smashed in by the student thugs, we'd have been pretty glad of some police around - and not accusing them of being "heavy-handed" and all the other crap that gets bandied around after these events.

Momdeguerre · 11/11/2010 15:15

Yes, silly me. They excuse any subsequent act of violence against any random police officer.

cupcakesandbunting · 11/11/2010 15:17

I didn't say that they excuse any subsequent acts, I said that people won't be sympathetic.

No-one should be throwing any punches, police or civvies. That way it's all nice and calm and peaceful.

UnquietDad · 11/11/2010 15:22

Well, if somebody smashed my window and a police officer was nearby, I'd rather like them to do a little bit more than ask them politely not to do it.

cupcakesandbunting · 11/11/2010 15:55

Man, I just want some peace is it too much to ask?

northernrock · 11/11/2010 16:13

My dad went to Uni when I was little.

I had an older brother, and my mum and dad had a mortgage.
My Dad had left school at sixteen and gone to work, but was really bright, which won him a place at a good Uni, and a very good degree.

He worked in the holidays, but in term time he read Eng Lit and had a lovely time.

His intention was not to make money. He told me that education was essential to the soul, and that if you had it " you may never be rich, but you will never be bored".

He taught me about history and literature instilled an appreciation of art, and encouraged me to question received wisdom.

He was never rich, and with him I was never bored.

He was a student quite some years ago, and got a grant to help him (and his family) live.

Nowadays a man (or woman) in that position could never go to university like my Dad did, and I think society is the poorer for that.

University should be for people who really care about learning, who are not only willing to work hard, but also relish the fact they are using their brains to full effect.

It should not be just a step in the career ladder on the way to a mid level job at Sainsburys, or a way of escaping your parents and getting pissed.

It should be totally fucking free to those that merit it, and there should be REAL alternatives to those to whom it is really not suited.

AbsofCroissant · 11/11/2010 16:19

Hear hear northernrock

SeaShellsOnTheSeaShore · 11/11/2010 16:27

:) well said northernrock. So true.

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