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to wonder why youd have COD black ops for kids way under 18?

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bettymoody · 10/11/2010 20:09

or is it really not that bad?

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BelligerentGhoul · 17/11/2010 17:55

'What a crock of shit' - yep, well summarised GetOrf! I am still shaking my head at some of the comments on here.

My dds are also without any of these games and seem to be able to still have social lives. Some people seem to feel that a child NEEDS these games in order to not be bullied. Surely the money would be better spent on drama or sports classes or something?

NotanOtter · 17/11/2010 20:47

Belligerentghoul i agree...i was quoting this thread to dp today - with particular reference to the 'kids need to fit in' bits

my teens are 18,16 14 and we don't have this stuff or even tv through an aerial - they are very confident happy and popular and god know why if you believed all this stuff

I think it's more often the parents buying this stuff to be popular or make sure their kid 'fits in'

a lot of teenagers are 'about' a lot lot more than screen games and respect to them

( sorry if that sounded a bit american!) Confused

pointydog · 19/11/2010 22:11

For pity's sake, please parents, stop buying these 1CoD and Black Ops for 10/11 year olds.

Not only do you not care too much what affect they might have on your own child, you are perpetuating an atmosphere of exclusion where all teh kids who aren't allowed them are pushed out of friendships.

Cretaceous · 19/11/2010 22:16

(I haven't read through the whole thread, but did start a thread about COD a long time ago.) My DS is 11 and I do not allow it in our house

DS went for a sleepover to a new friend age 11 the other day - and I discovered they, a couple of other friends and his two younger sisters were all playing it!!! Couldn't believe the parents would allow it without asking other parents first. (In fact, I think I have a unilateral ban, as everyone else seems to think it's fine...)

pointydog · 19/11/2010 22:17

Oh LOADS of parents allow it.

It is depressing as fuck.

NotanOtter · 19/11/2010 22:35

pointy - why do you think parents do it? pressure from children? society? want to?

pointydog · 19/11/2010 22:38

Pressure from their children and not wanting their child to be the odd-one-out, the excluded one so they jump in and make sure their child is in with the in crowd.

NotanOtter · 19/11/2010 23:21

depressingly self- fulfilling then
the more parents do this - the more it perpetuates the whole thing

mjinhiding · 19/11/2010 23:27

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Kaloki · 20/11/2010 00:00

getorf I didn't read those comments as saying it was ok, just pointing out a factual inaccuracy.

ragm · 07/12/2010 12:32

I would presume that parents would never dream of buying Cigarettes or Alcohol for their children nor attempt to take them to the pictures to see an 18 rated film. Why the confusion. I agree that most children want to push the boundaries but who is supposed to be setting them!!!

GiantFanatic · 07/12/2010 12:49

When i used to work in a small independent videogame stockist in the City near me, it was around the time the first GTA came out.

Some kids who were like 10-14 came in and tried to buy it, I plain refused because the game was an 18 and by the standards of the time it was a HARD 18!!

So off they go and then in comes the mother playing merry hell because I wouldn't sell her children these games! I explained to her the content and she didn't seem to care and bought them anyway.

The blame totally lies at the feet of the children's parents.

These people are either too lazy, stupid or ill-informed to try and find something good or constructive for their children to do, they just plonk em down infront of the TV and let them do whatever they like if it means they don't bother them.

Frankly, rather than banning the games, we should ban these women's vaginas! Untill they can control what comes out of it, they shouldn't get too use it!! Grin tongue firmly in cheek with last paragraph

bumpsoon · 07/12/2010 13:11

My sixteen year old has black ops , i dont mind him playing these types of games ,he also reads broadsheet newspapers (when i buy them ) and watches the news ,so is aware that war on a game and war in real life are very different things .He has been allowed to watch films that are 18 rated in the past ,but only ones i have watched first and as i dont watch horror films ,they are not that particular genre .

AbsofLatkes · 07/12/2010 13:25

what I love about these threads is the people who come on and say "adults also play these games and they are fine". IME, the adults I know who play these games are socially maladjusted misfits.
For example: former flatmate G who spent most Saturday nights in his room getting drunk (on his own) and playing COD until 4/5 am (and intermittently swearing at the tv). In his mid-late 30s, didn't have a GF for years until he started meeting girls (from Russia and Ukraine) on t'internet. Had severe anger-management problems.
Or, friend's two flatmates - both in early 40s, one unemployed for about ten years (the other one paid his rent). Barely ever left the flat, developed weird obsession with friend's cat and tried kidnapping it went friend left it to go on a trip. Both have drug problems.
Or, friend's BF (can't stand the guy) - also has problems with drugs and alcohol, is employed (well done him), but also may have beaten up my friend on occassion (how wrong it is that these two are together can't even begin to be explained, but she refuses to leave him Sad)
Or, DP's friend who is affectionately known as "unemployed guy". 30 y/o, longest he's ever held down a job for is about 3 months (which is his latest job - delivery truck driver for catering company). Failed his Bacc. about three times, despite being quite clever, spends most of his day either watching sports, or playing video games.
Ex's flatmate - in his 30s, barely left the flat, would spend all day playing WOW. Ex was his only friend.
Ex's second flatmate - severely depressed. Spent all day playing online, barely ever left the flat.

Maybe I just know all the extreme examples of gamers, but my experience is that the people who do routinely play these games have major problems with socialising with other people, rather mysoginistic/bizarre attitudes to women and problems with substance abuse. Really makes me want to run out and buy these games (in opposite world).

GiantFanatic · 07/12/2010 13:32

Hmm So Abs, your blaming ALL of those addictions and character flaws on videogames?

AbsofLatkes · 07/12/2010 14:54

No, but I'm saying that there can be a correlation - maybe for a lot of them (G in particular) they don't feel comfortable in RL so escape into the game. It means they don't have to deal with real things, or allows them to rationalise/normalise their behaviour.

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