To think this is a racist comment?

[chicaguapa]

My sister sent a text to my dad after X Factor yesterday saying 'bye bye shouty black woman'. I told my dad that I thought it was a horrible thing to say, but he said I was over-reacting. It wouldn't be totally out of character for her. AIBU?

YANBU. What does her colour have to do with anything?

well.... was the woman shouty? was she black?

TreyC didn't shout though. So the comment makes no sense unless it is relying on a racist stereotype. Together with you saying 'totally out of character for her' which I assume racist - YANBU

I don't know if she was shouty, I don't watch X Factor, though she is black. I just thought it was a bit derogatory and it annoyed me that she can be so ignorant.

Tbh OP i dont know how you get through life if you question every thing!!! How about when the police describe a suspect as white, in his late 50's etc etc, racist?? agist?? ffs grow up

*ageist

i don't think it is a racist comment. btw she is shouty.

yanbu
seems a strange comment, treyc is not particularly shouty either. to me it does come across racist all she can do is categorise her as "black women" rather than her name or anything,just seems weird and yes i would say not v nice
i would be if my sister said a comment like this (altho i dnt think that she would) so understand your feeling and yanbu

That's a bit unreasonable Jingle! My sister once said that she didn't want a black midwife, so she does have previous! So perhaps she needs to grow up and not me??

I don't really think it is racist to explain who someone is by mentioning their race.

she could have more simply described her as the badly dressed shouty woman.

now that is fucking racist.

(I don't watch xfactor)

I don't think its racist, being black is a distinguishing feature. It would have been more offensive to say something personal like she had a big nose or was fat.

If everyone in the competition was black and she was white the text would have been about a "shouty white" woman, you wouldn't be complaining then!

What about Louis telling a black singer (sorry can't remember his name) that he was like a "young Lenny Henry"? WTF was that about? Lenny Henry doesn't sing and this bloke didn't really look like him, apart from the colour of his skin.

now that is extremely offencive and very racist!! But this wasnt your title, what she said in her title just sounded like she was being descriptive. Although now youve said that she probably did mean it as a racist comment.

'my DS used to refer to a boy at preschool' as the one with the brown face' - oh dear! Different perhaps if your sister has a history of racist comments.

begony - your DS was just being descriptive.

I think it is more your issue than hers - you automatically balk when someone says the word black for goodness sake.

I was just trying to look at the comment on its own to see if it was still a bit .

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for using black as an adjective if it's descriptive etc and I get annoyed with overanalysis etc. But knowing her as I do, I reckon it has that tinge of racism that people don't realise they have/ or show until they make those kinds of comments.

If she was shouty, I think the comment could just have easily been 'bye bye shouty woman' and still think she meant the 'black woman' bit in a derogatory way. But my dad disagreed.

Begging your pardon to have strayed everso everso slightly from the subject matter jingletits. (Like the name).

Why is calling someone black racist? I don't have a clue who trayc is as I am overseas but describing someone by their colour certainly isn't racist.

Why does everyone skirt around skin colour so much? It's a descriptive term. What if she had said "bye bye shouty blond woman" - would that be blondist?

DS used to refer to a boy at school as 'black name' as there were two boys of the same name. I have no problem with that, so don't misunderstand where I'm coming from here.

My sister does wind me up with her non-PC comments. She refers to her friend's DD as weird when she is suspected ASD, yet my DD is ASD! Most of the time I just bite my tongue, but I guess today it has just irritated me more than usual!

Mardybra DS1 and DS2 still describe people as having brown faces - I am never sure whether to correct them and what to offer as the alternative?

OP I don't think your sister was being racist about Treyc - the midwife, yes.

Chicagapa...the trouble with that is that the two finalists in the x factor did not share a name...so there could be no confusion.

I think your sister was tring in a crap way to be funny...kin.d of like writing "by bye stupid blonde woman" if Katie had gone (other x factor finalist last night

i don't watch X factor.

i did however see some of this weeks one as we were at a family members house for fireworks.

I don't know their names so yes i too would have referred to her as "shouty black woman" had i been inclined to comment.

She wasn't shouty, she has a powerful singing voice, but not shouty, and a perfectly normal speaking voice, considering your sister has previous I would suspect she is being racist.

What's her reason for not wanting a black midwife?