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Or can anyone else not see a reason why this fire guard

16 replies

deliakate · 08/11/2010 19:50

is only suitable up to 24 months......... seems very young. I think we will need protection around our woodburning stove for a lot longer than that
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Haliborange · 08/11/2010 19:52

Perhaps because there's no top on it and children climb?

bearcrumble · 08/11/2010 19:53

Maybe they can work out how to open the gate or even climb over it by the time they are 2?

Hassled · 08/11/2010 19:54

I think they're just covering themselves against the risk that a two year old could potentially work out how to open the gate or pull it over. The same is presumably true of all fire surrounds, unless you chain/attach them to the wall (which is doable).

ramblingmum · 08/11/2010 19:54

As it has no top the risk is an older child could climb over it. Saying that we have a similar one round our gas fire and our DDs are 4y and 18months, but it is only used occasionally and dd1 now knows not to touch.

thisisyesterday · 08/11/2010 19:55

maybe cos they mihgt learn to undo the gate?

ConnorTraceptive · 08/11/2010 19:57

My concern would be the lack of top on it tbh

katiepotatie · 08/11/2010 20:01

In the description, it states that it is not a fire guard Confused I would go for a more traditional one myself.

ChippingIn · 08/11/2010 20:02

I think it's most likely due to the catch/lock/handle being very easy for a 2 year old to open.

Personally I'd go with one that doesn't have that gate in/on it, but I suppose it depends what kind of access you need to the fire. You can always put a padlock on the gate later on.

deliakate · 08/11/2010 20:04

Its bizarre, neither Mothercare nor Kiddiecare mention any age limit for it. Glad I looked on the manufacturers website, but it does seem odd.

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MmeLindt · 08/11/2010 20:05

We had that one as a stairgate and when we moved DD had only just worked out how to open it, she was 5yo. I suspect DS would have been faster.

I guess it depends on how you intend to use it. I would not leave a toddler alone in the room with the fire on, then it would really just be in case child got too close.

UniS · 08/11/2010 20:35

Its not a fire guard as it doesn't conform to the British Standard BS 1945:1971 for fire guards. Sparks or embers would pass between the bars so its useless with an open fire ALSO it offers zero protection against a child putting an arm through and reaching close to the fire.

PaisleyLeaf · 08/11/2010 20:39

A child could drop a toy over that top and open the gate/reach their arm through those gaps.

scurryfunge · 08/11/2010 20:42

A two year old could open the gate, knock over the whole thing or be able to climb over it. But you can start to reason with them a bit more at that age so it is still a useful guard.

1973magpie · 08/11/2010 21:03

I've got one of these and it attaches securely to brackets which are screwed to the wall, so am pretty sure it can't be pulled over.

My nearly 2 year old and 3.8 year old haven't tried to climb it (yet!). Also, because it surrounds the hearth, not just the fire itself, their arms are too short to get anywhere near the fire.

The only concern I would have if I had an open fire (instead of a stove) would be that they could drop themself/ a toy/blanket/something flammable into the fire over the top.

All the stairgate manufacturers seem to say that their stairgates are only for up to 24 months too, so don't know if this is standard wording, or what the reasoning is behind it.

HTH

BerylStreep · 08/11/2010 21:04

We have this for our gas fire (and have had for the last 5 years). It has attachments to attach to the wall, so there is little likelihood of it falling over.

My 3 1/2 yr old has never tried opening the gate, and knows not to.

There is a potential issue if toys were thrown in, depending on whether it is an open fire or a stove.

On the whole we are really happy with ours, although we have it in a room which we mainly use in the evenings and weekends - so not in a room which DC are in all day long IYKWIM.

MmeLindt · 08/11/2010 21:17

Agree with the last two posters. Ours was fixed to the wall, there was no way that it would fall over.

It is quite tricky to open as you have to squeeze the handle at the top and pull the whole gate up. Most 2 - 3 year olds would not be able to open it (houndini children not withstanding)

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